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Forget Pelosi. She is full of crap. Both parties are in the same bed on this one. Companies need cheap labor, and the answer is pretending that the problem does not exist and letting them hire illegal aliens with impunity. With us the taxpayers paying for their welfare and medical bills.

Everyone who is capable of rational thinking knows that the solution lies in taking action against employers who hire illegal aliens. Stiff penalties and prison terms for repeat offenders. Problem solved. They will not come here, period. No fences needed.

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Enforcing these laws would open up one hell of a job market, eh?

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^ So......she didn't say it? Was it out of context?
Apparently just a smidge. The HEADLINE says WORKSITE RAIDS are Un American but the quote in the article says...
"Who in this country would not want to change a policy of kicking in doors in the middle of the night and sending a parent away from their families?" Pelosi told a mostly Hispanic gathering at St. Anthony's Church in San Francisco.

"It must be stopped....What value system is that? I think it's un-American. I think it's un-American."
...which suggests raids at home. So, yes, it was out of context from the blaring headline.

So the article draws a conflict. Was she talking about worksite raids or raids in the homes that separate families and she thinks that separating families is Un-American?

SPIN. Fairly Unbalanced.


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Having lived in Arizona for 25 years, I've seen a lot. There are many 'angles' to the whole debate.

One statement I've heard is that we do not have an illegal immigrant problem, we have an illegal employer problem.

I've seen where a cleaning contractor calls INS on payday in order to skip out on paying the workers.

I've seen an illegal that has been deported multiple times shoot a cop in cold blood.

I've seen a law enforcement agency commit blatant racial profiling.

There are no absolutes in this debate. Anyone that only looks for a 'back and white' take on the issue does a severe disservice to the issue, all parties involved, and themselves.

I sometimes wonder whether those who look at issues with a 'binary' mindset are intellectually lazy, or have been frightened or manipulated into complacency.

Or is it that only simple minds see simple solutions.

Anyway, milfy and jhawk, you really need to stop watching Faux News. You'll find yourself hanging out on the Free Republic, listening to Limbaugh and Hannity, and trying to score Meth or Oxy at Denny's until you get busted.
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