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Instead of polluting our air with more chemicals from exhaust with burning oil, try getting some thick ply blk plastic to cover your water sucking pool!
This would not only heat it by solar but also keep debris from entering the pool when covered.
And may very well keep the evaporation rate down also!
I have a full black cover for it now. It does not even come close to providing the heating necessary to raise the temps 15+ degrees on 25K gallons of water. It does keep the evap rate down which is good but that is its primary value.

As for chemicals, I am finding that with veg oil and the correct exhaust system, dumping of "chemicals" into the air is not a problem. It is all a matter of what is being used to burn.

Remember, I am not pulling a 3500# car so the engine can be tuned for maximum environmental efficiency, not maximum torque/horsepower.

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Do you have any numbers on what it takes to heat 25,000 gallons of water 10-15 degrees? I assume the water is going to go into the system at 55-60 degrees. I would really like the water to be about 85 degrees when done.
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The pool has a pump.
You re-rout the water to go thru a regular gas water heater.
Take a 1/8 cooper pipe and with a neddle at one end crush the end.
Remove the neddle and you have a nozzle.
Place the nozzle thru the pilot flame and the end 1/2 inch from flame.
Run the cooper line/hose to a 1 to 5 gall tank mounted 3 feet higher then the flame and with a manual valve for flow control and a fuel filter.
You put in the tank 1 - 5 gall of used motor oil/ WVO and it will get preheated in the cooper pipe right before exiting the nozzle.
It will light up from the pilot and burn like a welding torch.
The BTU for oil is much higher then natural gas or gasoline so the heat generated is awsome.
Or you can buy a complex oil heater run by electric pumps and drive the heat thru the center of a water heater.
What kind of flow through time would that use. Processing 25,000 gallons 30 gallons at a time seems like it would run all day.

My thought with the motor is to grid the exhaust piping and pool piping together to provide a tight heat exchange which would let me process exhaust temps to the passing water jackets. They would then mix with the pump output of the pool system.

Interestingly the technology of making the exhaust pipes for the engine would be the exact opposite of a high performance system. You would want dirty bends, smaller tubing and decent backpressure. That would raise the heat to good levels with a sensor available to blow off heat should it get too high [doubtful as it would have a jacket of 55-60 degree water wrapping it constantly].

After the grid, two of the new bluetec diesel mufflers [used from Potomac] and the system should be quiet, clean and smoke free. Everyone in the hood will just have odd cravings for donuts or french fries.

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The latest French joke (it's nasty)

Le zoophile dit :
Et si on enculait le chat ?

Alors le sadique répond :
- Oh oui, enculons le chat, et après on le torture !

L'assassin reprend :
- C' est ça, enculons le chat, torturons le et ensuite on le crève !

Alors le nécrophile ajoute :
- Ah ouais, cool, on va enculer le chat, le torturer, le crever, et le réenculer !

Le pyromane enchaîne :
- Ouaiiiiiiis ! Enculons le chat, torturons-le, tuons-le, réenculons-le, et ensuite on lui fout le feu !

Le silence se fait, tout le monde regarde le masochiste et lui demande :
- Ben et toi, tu dis rien ?

Et le maso répond :
- Miaou !
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That pisses me off even more.

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Do you feel like purring instead?
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Do you have any numbers on what it takes to heat 25,000 gallons of water 10-15 degrees? I assume the water is going to go into the system at 55-60 degrees. I would really like the water to be about 85 degrees when done.
What kind of flow through time would that use. Processing 25,000 gallons 30 gallons at a time seems like it would run all day.
HEAT SIPHON® POOL HEAT-UP TIME

So, 2.1 million BTU
1 gall oil = 140,000 BTU
15 gall will do the job.
Now how fast you burn 15 gall depends on the burner.

oil heater from Northern Tool + Equipment
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This guy tried to live in a cave and the foreclosed on it.
This thread has really morphed out of sight!!

Whose fault is this anyway?



Great ideas being brought in here but I still think it's a huge project with quite a bit of installation and sight and noise problems ..and maintenance to boot.IMHO
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Why go half-way? Man up and go live in a cave.
One of my dreams is to build a cellar in the yard.
Maybe under a storage shed.
Keep my 500+ bottle of wine and hide in a cool spot.
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