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Actually, this guy isn't completely wrong. I think the drunk may be referring to "capitis diminutio" under International Maritime Admiralty Law. If the charges were indeed brought against his "corporate" persona, he has a valid argument, and would be correct in his claim of sovereignty. Under IMAL, a human being is different then a "person". Most legal proceedings are brought against the "person" because this is the corporate identity that the human being was given at birth by the government. Pay attention below to Capitis Diminutio Maxima, and then go look at how your name is printed on bills, legal documents, loan papers, etc. but most importantly.....your birth certificate....all caps.....therefore stripping your "person" of all rights at birth.

Natural Person

Human being, as distinguished from artificial persons or corporations recognized by the law.

A person in law, includes both a natural person, i.e., a human being, and an artificial person, i.e., a corporation. In strict sense, in law, a person is any being capable of having rights and duties and is of two classes only, namely, natural person and legal person. A natural person is a human being who has the capacity for rights and duties. A corporation is a legal person. See First National Bank of Boston v Belluth, 435 U.S. 765, 98 S.Ct. 1407, 55 L.Ed.2d 707. Unborn children are not persons for the purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Federal Constitution. See Roe v Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 93 S.Ct. 705, 35 L.Ed.2d 147. However, for the purposes of statutes governing actions for wrongful death, a viable fetus has been held to be a person. See Rice v Rizk, Ky.453 S.W.2d 732. For a contrary view see Lawrence v Craven Tire Co., 169 S.E.2d 440, 210 Va. 138. §1-201(29) of the U.P.C. defines the word as follows: an individual, a corporation, an organization, or other legal entity. The word has been statutorily defined as follows: "Person" includes individual, partnership, and corporation, but does not include governmental unit. 11 U.S.C. §101(30). An individual, a corporation, a partnership, an association, a joint-stock company, a trust, any unincorporated organization, or a government or political subdivision thereof. As used in this paragraph the term "trust" shall include only a trust where the interest or interests of the beneficiary or beneficiaries are evidenced by a security. 15 U.S.C. §77(b)(2). An individual, a corporation, a partnership, an association, a joint-stock company, a business trust, or an unincorporated organization. 15 U.S.C. §78(c)(9). An individual or company. 15 U.S.C. §79(b)(1) "Person" and "whoever" mean an individual, partnership, committee, association, corporation, or any other organization or group of persons. 18 U.S.C. §591(g). The term "person" and the term "whoever" include any individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, or joint-stock company. 18 U.S.C. §917(1). Any employee, or agent of the United States or any State or political subdivision thereof, and any individual, partnership, association, joint-stock company, trust, or corporation. 18 U.S.C. §2510(6). "Person" includes one or more individuals, labor organizations, partnerships, associations, corporations, legal representatives, mutual companies, joint-stock companies, trusts, unincorporated organizations, trustees, trustees in bankruptcy, or receivers. 29 U.S.C. §403 (d). An individual, a corporation, an organization, or other legal entity. U.C.C. §1-201(29). "Person" includes an individual or an organization. U.C.C. §1-201(30). A natural person or an organization. 12 C.F.R. §226.2(v).

These next five spellings of "John Doe" come from Black's Law Dictionary 4th edition

John Doe (this is the first one)

Capitis Diminutio Minima Blacks Law Dictionary Revised 4th Ed.1968
The lowest or least comprehensive degree of loss of status. This occurred where a man’s family relations alone were changed. It happened upon the arrogation [pride] of a person who had been his own master, (sui juris,) [of his own right, not under any legal disability] or upon the emancipation of one who had been under the patria potestas. [parental authority] It left the rights of liberty and citizenship unaltered. See Inst. 1, 16, pr.; 1, 2, 3; Dig. 4, 5, 11; Mackeld.Rom.Law, 144.

John DOE (this is the second one)

Capitis Diminutio Media Blacks Law Dictionary Revised 4th Ed.1968
A lesser or medium loss of status. This occurred where a man loses his rights of citizenship, but without losing his liberty. It carried away also the family rights.

JOHN DOE (here is the third one)

Capitis Diminutio Maxima Blacks Law Dictionary Revised 4th Ed.1968
The highest or most comprehensive loss of status. This occurred when a man’s condition was changed from one of freedom to one of bondage, when he became a slave. It swept away with it all rights of citizenship and all family rights.

john doe (this is the fourth one)
sovereign individual

Nomme de Guerre: DOE, JOHN (the fifth one)
The Nomme de Guerre has no rights and freedoms and is a complete slave to the Admiral.

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Natural person
A human being as distinguished from a person (as a corporation) created by operation of law

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I have a Shane costume I wear for that purpose. It's just that Cherry Slurpees aren't always in season here and I have to substitute Strawberry.
That is all fine and dandy, but do you wear the wolf's head like me as well? Yeah I know it gets grey hair all over the subtle Armani pinstripe, but it does get you understood and well known. I recommend a light colored, solid tie. The grey hair can get overwhelming. The girls can't keep their hands off of it either. Sigh.
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The Wolf's head was on back order so they gave me a Javelina instead.

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