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Thanks for the links. I thought such articles were not available in English.

I only wish the average American will take a minute and think about Afghanistan as a nation in war and chaos for decades now. Even if 9/11 was entirely committed by Afghans/Taliban (Not Saudis/Arabs and I won't say it was an inside job just not to steer the discussion further off point ), the whole Afghani people shouldn't be punished for it. I don't know what American soldiers are doing there in the first place.. Chasing ghosts in mountains?? Taliban suffered a blow at first but it's rebuilding its strength. It'll take years of attacks and devastation before the US realizes it can't change a thing on the ground and it can no longer afford the costs. Haven't you learned anything from the Soviet invasion?
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Wrong again. The soldiers do what they are told by the commander in chief. if they don't, well I am sure you are intelligent enough to figure out what happens to them.
US soldier is a PRIVATE volunteer and has the right not to obey an order and many of them have done it.
Nobody will kill them for that but they will support the normal consequences.
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Don't worry, i suspect that we ALL will be paying for it for a very long time! Our children will also be paying for it because as the orphan generation grows up, they will be wanting blood! Bush created hundreds of thousands of future terrorists who will be after blood of our children. When they grow up with security because of them being orphans, they will have had no real chance of an education, love from their parents, etc. They will not be trying to give us a bear hug. They will want to get even. I am sure I WILL PAY ALONG WITH YOU TOO.
Very accurate.
WE chose this war and WE are going to support the consenquences.
That is life.
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US soldier is a PRIVATE volunteer and has the right not to obey an order and many of them have done it.
Nobody will kill them for that but they will support the normal consequences.
Very inaccurate. A soldier is bound by the UCMJ, which states all soldiers are bound to obey all LAWFUL orders, and if they do not, they can be punished up to and including being shot by a firing squad. They can refuse to obey what they consider an UNLAWFUL order, but they will be required to defend their assertion that the order was unlawful at Court Martial, and if the court finds the order was indeed lawful, then they are again liable for the same punishment. Any army where the soldiers have a "right not to obey an order" would soon be defeated.

While it is true that in the modern world "nobody will kill them for that", the military regulations allowing for executions have never been removed from the books, and it is well understood that if war and battle get tough enough, commanders are in their discretion to resort to harsh measures if they are deemed required. I am sure mcbear, our resident military big shot, can confirm what I have said.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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US soldier is a PRIVATE volunteer and has the right not to obey an order and many of them have done it.
Nobody will kill them for that but they will support the normal consequences.
Are you just plain stupid, crazy, uneducated, or are you just pulling everybody's chain?
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He was thinking of Halliburton....

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