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Yes, he expresses his opinion to people who seem to care. They care because they want to be told what to think. There is no other possible reason. Rush isn't a genius, he's just a poor slob with the gift of gab who has settled into a niche, the scope of which must shock even him. I used to listen to Rush years back. He was funny, an entertainer, a clown. People on both sides now speak of him as if he matters, and by doing so, ensure that he does. Personally, I find the proliferation of hate-peddlers, of which Rush is apparently king, a sad commentary on the state of our nation.
I could not disagree with you more. You are doing exactly what the media is doing. You are speaking of people who listen to Limbaugh and painting them with the same brush.

Nobody ever said Limbaugh was genius. What he is, is a conservative thinker who enjoys a very large following. Truly the only difference between listening to a radio show and posting here is that there is an interactivity. You wouldn't say that the vast majority of people who read this forum are endeavouring to be told what to think. And yet we know that there are more people who lurk and read than read and post.

And please do yourself the courtesy of not engaging in the whole "Hate Monger" speech. If you do not want to stop that then please at least show us where Limbaugh has said hateful things.

This thread is about the lack of long term vision of the Democratic Political Strategists. So if you choose to excoriate Limbaugh do so on one of the Racist threads that were started by Feel The Love or Brentwood.

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democrats? it sure seems rushness does a fine job elevating himself. give credit where it's due.



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And see that is where your estimation fails. Rush doesn't tell anyone what or how to think. He merely expresses his opinion.

Al Franken gave it a valiant effort and the left even had an entire Radio conglomerate. Anyone remember Air America? It failed because nobody listened. All they could do was bash Bush personally. Any kind of actual conversation turned into a Bush bash or it turned into a Bush bash.

The conversations always were about the "facists" and the "bigots" and all the other names in the book. Again, my point about the extremists.

And not to put too fine a point on the subject, Rush Limbaugh has the highest average audience for a 3 hour show. Some 20 million listeners I think. Statistically that is a much larger percentage than can be passed off as extremists. In fact it is quite mainstream. So to dismiss Limbaugh as an extremist is to make the same mistake the media is making.
Yes, AM Radio, that's the ticket. Back to the Future!

Rush's "20 million listeners" is a myth. His audience is the shrinking group of old white guys who can't figure out how to use an iPod. He couldn't even stop McCain.

I think it's a brilliant ploy by Obama. The RNC has been trying to paint Obama with the "extremist" brush since he emerged. Well, Obama is painting them back. Limbaugh has two decades of insane sayings, bad predictions and out right lies that will make wonderful campaign commercials. The period between 2008 to 2010 is the pre-revolutionary period in this country. The elections of 2010 will decide the future, the GOP has 14 Senate seats up for grabs, and if it loses much more in the House, the Democrats will get the 2/3's it needs to pass constitutional amendments.

The only people who care for Limbaugh are tired out white guys who think the 90's never ended. Each year demographics does it work, the old white guys die, replaced by Latinos and other minorities the GOP has spent decades writing off or pissing off. The Steele ploy was brilliant. The RNC's national black boy has to go groveling to Massa Rush, something lost on most white people, but something that every minority person has taken note of.

In the wings is Limbaugh's decade of women-bashing, the man is a closet gay who hates women, it comes out left and right in his tirades. Next comes his years of bashing Latinos and his racist statements against the Phildelphia Eagles quarterback. And it isn't going to stop, Limbaugh's huge ego relishes in being the new head of the GOP, even if it means that his presence at the top means the GOP will be restricted to it's base of greedy old white guys. I think it is brilliant. Now we've got them arguing with each other, it's like getting the enemy to shoot at each other. I love it.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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I liken this whole RUSH thing, to be much like all those who watch the Simpsons for family values..............
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I could not disagree with you more. You are doing exactly what the media is doing. You are speaking of people who listen to Limbaugh and painting them with the same brush.

Nobody ever said Limbaugh was genius. What he is, is a conservative thinker who enjoys a very large following. Truly the only difference between listening to a radio show and posting here is that there is an interactivity. You wouldn't say that the vast majority of people who read this forum are endeavouring to be told what to think. And yet we know that there are more people who lurk and read than read and post.
The people who read this forum that matter are those who interact. That give and take among equals is the difference between attending a sermon and engaging in constructive dialog. That is no small distinction.

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And please do yourself the courtesy of not engaging in the whole "Hate Monger" speech. If you do not want to stop that then please at least show us where Limbaugh has said hateful things.

This thread is about the lack of long term vision of the Democratic Political Strategists. So if you choose to excoriate Limbaugh do so on one of the Racist threads that were started by Feel The Love or Brentwood.
Limbaugh and his ilk make a living forwarding diatribes on one topic after another they find distasteful. I'll grant that I haven't listened to Rush in quite some time, so perhaps he has changed. Does he now primarily discuss those issues that unite all Americans, rather than those that divide us?

Further, if you wish to steer the direction of your thread, might I suggest ignoring content you find tangential, rather than emphasizing, responding, then discouraging further repudiation of your own opinions. It is ineffective, disingenuous, and just a bit cowardly.

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Hate quotes? Sure:
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Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.

Response to a black caller he was having a hard time understanding in the 1970s when he worked under the name "Jeff Christie" on a top-40 music program in Pittsburgh, as quoted in Newsday (8 October 1990) where he expresses some remorse at having said it; also in The Way Things Aren't : Rush Limbaugh's Reign of Error (1995) by Steve Rendall, Jim Naureckas, and Jeff Cohen [ISBN 156584260X] , "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and "Bone Voyage" at Snopes.com (4 September 2007)
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The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.

As quoted in Flush Rush Quarterly (January 1993) and in "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and in "Off Sides" by Michael Tomasky in The American Prospect (16 July 2003)
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They're 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?

Of African-Americans, as quoted in "Limbaugh Brings Baggage with his ESPN Blabber" by Derrick Z. Jackson inThe Boston Globe (16 July 2003), and "Colorblind football fans know Rush is wrong" by Richard Roeper in Chicago Sun-Times (1 October 2003)
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Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

As quoted in "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and at "Bone Voyage" at Snopes.com (4 September 2007)
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The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.

As quoted in "Dittohead Blues" in the LA Weekly (9 October 2003)
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Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

As quoted in "Hey Rush, when it comes to sports ... shhh!" by Mike Freeman at CBS SportsLine (27 January 2007)
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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Why should we take Rush any more serious than FTL? They are in the same dumpster pointing fingers at each other? Different threads pulled from the same cloth.
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Why are you "elevating" FTL?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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So I was thinking this week about all this hullabaloo about Rush Limbaugh. I was thinking from a strategic and tactical view point. Why are the Democrats continually putting Limbaugh in the limelight? Apparently they think that this is something that will harm Republicans.
I believe your initial conclusion of what "they" think is incorrect.

Democrats think that Limbaugh hurts this country by dragging political discourse down to a simpleton level of hate and bumper-sticker memes. He has collected a group of listeners 'self proclaimed ditto heads' who simply agree with what he says, not giving it critical thinking or even the level of thought they would give what they have for breakfast, just repeating it as gospel.

Democrats and many Independents also marvel at the way he has, over the past few years managed to further take the Republican Party from a party of NeoCons, focused on hate of everything with which THEY don't agree to a Party which now it turning on itself, blaming each other for its failures and inadequacies, unable to grasp that it is the hate and segregation that is the culprit and folks like Rush and Hannity and O'Really and Beck are the orchestra leaders playing their "ditto heads" for fools, all to gain ratings and sell advertising.

The Democrats are not putting Rush in the limelight, RUSH is putting Rush in the limelight.

Maybe you needed a bit more strategic and tactical thinking before presenting.

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There is nothing different. It's the same as before. They will try to bring the "Fairness Doctrine" back and it too will fail to do any harm to Rush.

The left, if they really want to succeed, needs to find someone with the same fight and vigor as Rush and have them battle on the airwaves. I just have faith that they will ever find anyone with the same heart and fight as Rush.

If they wanna win, fight fire with fire.
You don't understand talk radio. Folks on the left don't listen to talk radio. There is no need for a "someone with the same fight and vigor" from the left side. There is no audience. Survey after survey shows that it is a narrow group of people who listen to talk radio and it is not Liberal or Democratic. It is statistically either those who call themselves Independent or Republican.

Talker is the trade magazine of the industry. Here are the results of their latest survey. It shows who listens to talk radio.

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