Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 83 Astral Silver 280 SL
Location: Planet Houston
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FTL, I must have not been clear with the statement "and we'll be back in another ten years" it's in reference to Iraq not to Vietnam. Vietnam was a senseless war and when our troops left, the country went back to being itself. Iraq on the other hand as we make our withdrawal (a good thing btw) will continue to be the same, a volatile area.
It's been a volitile area for 3,000 years. Maybe we'll learn to stay out. Our real solution is to find the will to start using other forms of energy. Motor fuel in the US can easily be replaced by natural gas and liquified coal. Power plants can easily be converted to nuclear. Sure it will cost more, but the beginning of true evil in this country was when we decided that spending 4,000 American lives as part of keeping the cost of energy down was some how the right thing to do. I curse the evil bastards who made that calculus. What we should learn from it is the same thing we should have learned from Nam: stay the hell out if you do not have the absolute moral high ground. We need to do things so we don't HAVE to be back in ten years, things we could have done with the trillion dollars shit down that rat hole.
Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.
-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address