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You might want to learn to read charts.

The 2009 budget belongs to Bush [much like the 2001 budget belonged to Clinton]. The two major items that trigger all that negative spending in the budget are the Financial Sector Bailout from Fall 2008 and the Stimulus Package taht was just signed, both due to ineffectiveness of Bushie.

As I said late last year, after the Financial sector bailout, it is going to be worse before it gets better and I would not be surprised if the Bush Economic Doctrine doesn't end up costing us a $13Trillion National Debt in the long run.

So, really nice try in an attempt to obfuscate but it really doesn't work.
Your attempt to justify a 800B porkulus package is pathetic.

The chart above says it all.
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Yep, It has to be fixed. And it will be. It is interesting, however that the whiners on the right, who sat silent from 2001-2007 while Bush and his Republican Congress ran up deficit after deficit now bitch about Obama's plan without having CONSTRUCTIVE alternatives.

As you say, it has to be fixed. That is what is happening. So it boils down to either help or shut up move out of the way.
No, it won't be fixed
as long as the socialists in power insist on digging a bigger hole.
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I want to personnally thank you for the money you are going to contribute to help us build a new world. And that goes for Jaywhack too, you guys are all right.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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I want to personnally thank you for the money you are going to contribute to help us build a new world. And that goes for Jaywhack too, you guys are all right.
Does building a new world include blowing up more caves in Afghanistan ?
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Let's hope so. The people we are fighting in Afghanistan were directly responsible for killing 3,000 American civilians. I guess for the Iraq-obsessed Republicans, that's just a distant memory.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Let's hope so. The people we are fighting in Afghanistan were directly responsible for killing 3,000 American civilians. I guess for the Iraq-obsessed Republicans, that's just a distant memory.
Nice double standard. You are insinuating that the original group of whackjobs is still hiding in the caves and all of the action we have encountered in Afghanistan is from the original gangsters. That means that the Afghan/Pakistan/Iran borders are all very secure and no one from any splinter groups are allowed.

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Your attempt to justify a 800B porkulus package is pathetic.

The chart above says it all.
The chart says nothing but numbers. I can only justify much of that package because the spending initiative to stimulate job growth and trigger the economy out of a tailspin is more important AT THIS POINT IN TIME that the deficit.

If I had my druthers we would never deficit spend and we would regulate the financial sector to where we would not be in the position we are in today. But that is not what happened.

I can justify it because I have looked at the options and it is the best of the bad options on the table. I have no problem with that analysis and decision.

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No, it won't be fixed
as long as the socialists in power insist on digging a bigger hole.
You have proven over hundreds of posts that you have no grasp of economics. You don't understand that this problem is different than nearly every problem that has existed in the history of this country.

And you certainly don't know the definition of socialist. Throwing the word around does not make it fit.

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Nice double standard. You are insinuating that the original group of whackjobs is still hiding in the caves and all of the action we have encountered in Afghanistan is from the original gangsters. That means that the Afghan/Pakistan/Iran borders are all very secure and no one from any splinter groups are allowed.

Opportunity is where you find it.
Well, they weren't in Iraq when we blew the crap out of them. Just an easy target. But you are right, they are not all sequestered in one area now.

That is why the military option is not viable. We have to use brains instead of bombs. I kinda liked my edit of the bumpersticker Strength through Superior BRAINPOWER. It works.

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Still? We're still doing this misdirection and obtuse Glenn Beck "inability to understand anything but will argue it to it's death" shit?

Fuck Jayhawk already.
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