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NATO allies offer limp response to U.S. Afghan call

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NATO allies offer limp response to U.S. Afghan call | Reuters

KRAKOW, Poland (Reuters) - The United States called on its NATO allies Thursday to provide more forces to provide security for Afghanistan's presidential election in August, but had only a limited response.

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he would not seek a specific number of additional NATO troops from a meeting of NATO defense ministers in the Polish city of Krakow.

But he said Washington would like to see a short-term deployment of troops to Afghanistan from the alliance's rapid response force, the NRF, which has never been utilized.

"The message is that it is a new administration and (it) is prepared to make additional commitments to Afghanistan. But there clearly will be expectations that the allies must do more as well," Gates told reporters.

U.S. President Barack Obama authorized 17,000 more U.S. troops for Afghanistan this week, taking the U.S. contingent to around 55,000, in addition to the 30,000 from 40 other mostly NATO countries already operating in Afghanistan.

Some European allies have announced plans to send more troops, but these numbered in the hundreds, not thousands, and Germany said the NRF should not be used for Afghan duty.

"The NRF should not be used as a reserve," German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung told reporters in Krakow. "The NRF has fundamentally different tasks."
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seems more like a washington call. poland may help, as it always does, but it has to deal with pakistan over the beheading first.

germany is right so nrf isn't going anywhere on us' whim. sry.



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Bush let the war drag on for years, insuring it would have no success by tying up the US Armed forces in Iraq, so what's the big surprise?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Everybody with any common sense and some knowledge of history knows that winning a war in Afghanistan using conventional weapons is a lost cause due to extremely difficult mountainous terrain and the very nature of Taliban fighters who are capable and very resilient. Russians could not conquer it, and what makes you think we will? And what on earth are we going to accomplish even if we did?

I wish Obama would listen to those who know better on this subject.
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Obama has undoutedely found it much easier to criticize existing policy while strutting the world stage as a candidate than he has in implementing his agenda once in office.

His first foreign policy “success” was to get publicly bitched slapped by Amadinajad who made reconciliation contingent upon America “apologizing” for previous wrongdoing.

Good start.

Now our allies are rejecting his calls for an increased troop commitment in Afghanistan.

Whatever happened to all the good will and improved relations with our European allies his election was supposed to engender?

Where are those adoring German throngs, weeping at the sight of the messiah, now that we need them?
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The "Gitmo closure" was another rash announcement made without any alternative plans provided. Talk is easy indeed.
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so, you two expected miracles eh? well, hahahahaha



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13LL crowd pleaser Chief Kool Aid dispenser.

Where's the beef ?
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the beef is with trust of usa and that will take a while to rebuild. you expected the repairs in a month what took 8 years to break? you may be bigger fools i was taking you for previously.



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the beef is with trust of usa and that will take a while to rebuild. you expected the repairs in a month what took 8 years to break? you may be bigger fools i was taking you for previously.
The government changed over in 1 minute, didn't it ?

The beef is with the US government or ... wait a minute, are you saying Americans are actually their enemies ?
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