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Originally Posted by Jayhawk View Post
The Pope is speaking on an important MORAL issue that is in the forefront of key church dogma. I don't believe he is being political at all, and I certainly don't believe he is grandstanding. Pelosi would do well to heed his admonitions if she plans to remain in the church.
It is grandstanding, plain and simple. In Italy abortion has been legal since the late 1970's, and the attempt to repeal the law was voted down by 80% or so of the population. Abortion in Italy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think the Pope, as a former Nazi or at least Nazi sympathizer, would hold his own country, Germany, to a higher standard. Germany has a long history of arguing over this subject as well. It has long been illegal, but the penalties were lessened under the Weimarer Republik before the Nazis took over. After they got control, the Nazis made the penalties much more restrictive. Gotta get those Aryans breeding more quality German citizens to populate the ranks of those operating the gas chambers, you know. After the war abortion remained illegal until the mid 1970's when there was a restrictive set of conditions set that allowed it. When the two Germany's united abortion became legal. And, it remains legal (and their law is likely better than any other set up on this issue I have read about):
Abortion in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have yet to hear the Pope summarize his entire meeting with either the Italian politicians or German politicians, or any other European politicians with a lecture about the sanctity of life. It is reserved for Americans because we are paying too much attention to the kiddie diddling of his management team. By continually pressing this hot button he is hoping to distract Americans from the fact that the Catholic Church has, for decades, been enabling kiddie diddling in the US, and likely elsewhere. When the lawsuits started piling up here it brought "the fear of God" into the Catholic Church's management team that similar responses might become the rule in other countries where the kiddie diddling, if it was going on (and with the celibacy requirement, why wouldn't it?) represented an entirely new threat. Gotta get that that story tamped down and no better way than to stir the mud with a sanctity of life lecture to an American politician that will make American headlines. And that is what makes the speech political grandstanding.


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