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Bear you can't blame McConnell for this fuck up!

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Naw, wouldn't blame McConnell. I actually paid attention in Civics class and know that a US Senator has nothing to do with STATE laws.

Now, regarding the state law, Kentucky was, up until yesterday 47th highest [or third lowest for the math impaired] behind Missouri and Mississippi and tied for 47th with Virginia] at 30 cents a pack. Considering the cost of health care for folks, paid for by the state as a result of smoking the costs were not in line with the rest of the economy.

http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/cigarett.html

Now as for alcohol, the new bill just removes the FOOD EXEMPTION that is has been allowed to have and restores the state's normal sales tax to it.

At the NEW rate, Kentucky will rate around 36th instead of 47th, still in the lowest third of tax rates on cigarettes in the nation. And alcohol will be taxed at the counter as it is at every other state that has a sales tax.

Pretty cool spin, huh?

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Part and parcel of the liberal intellectual elite's social reform initiatives.
Well, we were going to call it the "Tax on Stupidity", I thought that had a nice ring to it. We need to tax cigerettes out of existence, I sure as hell don't want to breath some cancer-ridden moron's spew. And liquor, hell, make your own if you don't like it.

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Naw, wouldn't blame McConnell. I actually paid attention in Civics class and know that a US Senator has nothing to do with STATE laws.

Now, regarding the state law, Kentucky was, up until yesterday 47th highest [or third lowest for the math impaired] behind Missouri and Mississippi and tied for 47th with Virginia] at 30 cents a pack. Considering the cost of health care for folks, paid for by the state as a result of smoking the costs were not in line with the rest of the economy.

State Tax Rates on Cigarettes

Now as for alcohol, the new bill just removes the FOOD EXEMPTION that is has been allowed to have and restores the state's normal sales tax to it.

At the NEW rate, Kentucky will rate around 36th instead of 47th, still in the lowest third of tax rates on cigarettes in the nation. And alcohol will be taxed at the counter as it is at every other state that has a sales tax.

Pretty cool spin, huh?
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So you decided to go stats, okay but what about your normal woe is me for the poor class?

I don't smoke so it will not affect me, however The Beer tax! geesh!
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in KY you can definitely do both on your own. many people do.



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Hey, we're talking about tobacco.


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So you decided to go stats, okay but what about your normal woe is me for the poor class?

I don't smoke so it will not affect me, however The Beer tax! geesh!
I have never said anyone had the right to buy ciggies or beer. Maybe they will prioritize and choose food over beer or cigarettes and improve their health at the same time.

Personally I thought the bill was very mild. With as much focus on trying to improve health, reduce medical costs and also trying to balance the state's budget it would not have been unrealistic to have seen the tax to go up to $1.00 a pack [which would be the median rate for the country.

And they didn't actually raise taxes on alcohol, just removed the braindead exemption from sales tax that lobbyists had worked so hard to give it years ago.

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Tobacco taxes are a source of revenue for the state. The current tax rate is $2.025 cents per pack of 20 cigarettes. Distribution of taxes among 5 funds:

1. Health Care $1.01
2. General Fund 23.0 cents
3. Programs to Stop Youth Violence 10.5 cents
4. Water quality 8.0 cents
5. Education Programs 60.0 cents
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