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The plan is bad and should fail. How long have you been looking in windows while you drive and listen to the radio? That's distracted driving that can result in injuries.
Not to mention the spookiness of it!

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The Senate passed it. You could write a thank-you to Snowe, Collins and Specter.
I thought that specter would vote nay after making the rounds yesterday and getting his ears boxed on the subject.

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Here's refreshingly straight talk as opposed to Obama's fluff

"That's the real scandal here," he said. "There ought to be complete accountability, complete transparency."
As we saw yesterday, $8.7T is already committed. During the previous administration. It's awfully late in the game to be insisting on transparency and accountability. Better late than never, I suppose. Remember Paulson's plan, $700B scribbled on the back of a cocktail napkin? And we had to pay up right then, no questions asked, or there would be complete collapse?

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A truly bipartisan plan which 87 percent of the population can support would include a general tax cut.

Like I said before, the key to the stimulus is to instill confidence in people, and that can only be done with a bipartisan plan otherwise half of the population is not on board the "confidence train". Once you don't have that ingredient, half of the battle for instilling confidence is already lost.

Oh and guess what, the other half evaporated today with Geitner's (non) announcement of the TARP II plans he has been working on since day one. Good going.

What was meant as a one-two confidence boost to the economy has turned into a one-two sucker punch.
What was the question that garnered the 87% number?

The other half did not evaporate today. That is just silliness. Just because Wall Street did not like the rules associated with the second tranche does not mean it evaporated support or is a bad plan. It just means they reacted bad TODAY.

As I have said here for damned near half a decade, the stock market is a one day slice. That is all it is.

As for confidence, all the polls are showing that a majority of folks believe it is in the right direction. I tend to use the Gallup polls as they are the most consistent and have a clean methodology that noone has been able to poke holes in, from either side.

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As we saw yesterday, $8.7T is already committed. During the previous administration. It's awfully late in the game to be insisting on transparency and accountability. Better late than never, I suppose. Remember Paulson's plan, $700B scribbled on the back of a cocktail napkin? And we had to pay up right then, no questions asked, or there would be complete collapse?
That's was part of the hope and (now rapidly deteriorating) confidence in the OBA...
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What was the question that garnered the 87% number?

The other half did not evaporate today. That is just silliness. Just because Wall Street did not like the rules associated with the second tranche does not mean it evaporated support or is a bad plan. It just means they reacted bad TODAY.

As I have said here for damned near half a decade, the stock market is a one day slice. That is all it is.

As for confidence, all the polls are showing that a majority of folks believe it is in the right direction. I tend to use the Gallup polls as they are the most consistent and have a clean methodology that noone has been able to poke holes in, from either side.

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Here is a fellow Democrat echoing my words.

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Rep. Heath Shuler (D-N.C) has further ingratiated himself with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi — not — by declaring that Pelosi and Harry Reid "failed" the bipartisanship test on stimulus.

"In order for us to get the confidence of America, it has to be done in a bipartisan way," Shuler said in Raleigh following an economic forum, according to the AP.

"We have to have everyone — Democrats and Republicans standing on the stage with the administration — saying, 'We got something done that was efficient, stimulative and timely.'"

Here's the kicker: "I truly feel that's where maybe House leadership and Senate leadership have really failed."

Shuler, rumored to be mulling a '10 Senate run, was one of 11 House Democrats to vote "no" on the stimulus and was already deep in Pelosi's doghouse. Now he'll have to build a Harry Reid wing.
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It's all about power. They know they're becoming marginalized, and they're gambling that only total armageddon can rescue them. That the nation crashes and burns is irrelevant.
Agreed – the issue is not Republican opposition to the bill per se but their unwillingness to put forward a viable solution in the context of opposition. Their only ‘solution’ is the same old failed policies that manifested this mess in the first place.
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Here is a fellow Democrat echoing my words.
Shuler is one of the Bluedogs. I am not surprised at his comments, or his lack of fear at getting in hot water with leadership. That is what Bluedogs do.

What I don't see, however is a rationale that says a bipartisan vote must be close to unanimous. While folks vote along party lines, the actual negotiations have been very much bipartisan. There have been two separate groups who have worked together to pull the Senate bill together, build a consensus and move it forward.

I have come to the conclusion that nobody in this Congress is going to do a "bipartisan 100-0 type vote for anything of significance. Those days are pretty much gone. There is too much posturing.

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Congressman Shuler married Nikol Davis of Waynesville and they have two children, Navy and Island.

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Congressman Shuler married Nikol Davis of Waynesville and they have two children, Navy and Island.

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OK, he is just wacky. I thought we were going to have a former swabbie. Maybe they were just both conceived at Navy Island Resort in Jamaica and he is not very original. At least they aren't named Windstar and Rumpke.

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