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The liberal solution to massive debt is to spend more and then double the debt.

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The liberal solution to massive debt is to spend more and then double the debt.
Room should be made for both spending and tax cuts because we need ALL ON BOARD the confidence train.
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At that time, Bush's one time tax rebate did improve the economy but the downturn is in a different phase now.

As bottomline said, a one time infusion of funds would not suffice now since folks will put it in their savings. But a tax cut would allow people who still have jobs to plan for more gifts under the tree, more nights out etc etc.
Do you still not see the point or are you just being an ass (even to your own KY kin) ?
So what phase of the downturn was the "improvement"?

Regarding tax cuts and "putting more gifts under the tree". My philosophy is LONGTERM stability of the economy, not short term gratification. Tax cuts, with deficit spending and high debt load just is not a viable economic model for the country. It might have limited effect on some people, some of the time but the overall, longterm stability is more important.

The government has to make plans for 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 25 years etc. We have to build a level of stability and predictability in that economy and build an infrastructure in that economy that supports EVERYONE [not pays for them, just supports their existence like roads and airports and food inspections]. If the government has too high of a debt load and too much deficit spending it fails ALL the people because it can't provide those primary services. A panacea of a stimulus check or short term tax cut fails everyone. It does not build a solid foundation.

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The liberal solution to massive debt is to spend more and then double the debt.
um, you might want to check you information a bit better. More facts, less dogma. The only Presidents to "double the debt" are Reagan and Bush2.

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Room should be made for both spending and tax cuts because we need ALL ON BOARD the confidence train.
The confidence is going to come as the economy improves. There is not a requirement to convince everyone to "get on board". It would be nice but it is not going to happen. It has to be the BEST plan, not the plan that satisfies the most people and gets them to poll better.

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The confidence is going to come as the economy improves. There is not a requirement to convince everyone to "get on board". It would be nice but it is not going to happen. It has to be the BEST plan, not the plan that satisfies the most people and gets them to poll better.
Yup, a bunch of lefties knows best.
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So what phase of the downturn was the "improvement"?

Regarding tax cuts and "putting more gifts under the tree". My philosophy is LONGTERM stability of the economy, not short term gratification. Tax cuts, with deficit spending and high debt load just is not a viable economic model for the country. It might have limited effect on some people, some of the time but the overall, longterm stability is more important.
Read "putting more gifts under the tree" as more consumer spending. Are you seriously suggesting the American economy move away from its reliance on the consumer ? In that case, you should dig in for a looong while.

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The government has to make plans for 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 25 years etc. We have to build a level of stability and predictability in that economy and build an infrastructure in that economy that supports EVERYONE [not pays for them, just supports their existence like roads and airports and food inspections]. If the government has too high of a debt load and too much deficit spending it fails ALL the people because it can't provide those primary services. A panacea of a stimulus check or short term tax cut fails everyone. It does not build a solid foundation.
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Yup, a bunch of lefties knows best.
Was he talking about the surge?

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