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And from all the Mfg based people and their Dist, nobody wants it!

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Seems to me to be classic legislation. Bill is posited by the President in broad terms. Bill is crafted by committee and presented to the House. Bill is moved to the Senate where an alternative version is crafted. Conference Committed begins working out the compromise.

That is the absolute antithesis of railroaded.


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The guy really hasn't had a chance to do anything other than fight fires. I am losing some optimism though in light of his cabinet picks and the swiftness of the haggard reptiles in the Democratic party in cutting off his balls.

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What I do not understand is why the guys on the left here on this board can not admit that Obama is no different a politician than Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton? He ran on a platform of "Change we can believe in." and never once told us what that change was.

He comes in and in the first week makes a big show of signing some executive orders that turn out to be symbolic and devoid of substance, and he creates an administration that is devoid of any change, and in fact keeps the Defense Department wholly intact and brings Leon Panetta to the CIA.

So when are you guys going to admit that y'all were hoodwinked? It's ok, we all wanted to believe he was the one. It's alright.

Now watch how they lash out with the name calling and demonizing. It'll be fun!
Leon Panetta is at the CIA to stop the torture. That's not change? And how is closing Gitmo "devoid of substance"? And why am I listening to the pro-life nut cases screaming and thrashing over Obama's executive orders on family planning if they were "devoid of substance"? Hoodwinked? My ass, I am elated. Three Republicans in the Senate pretty much switch to the Democratic Party in everything but name, and got the stimulus bill passed. I now count 61 votes in the Senate for across-the-board historic change, and would not be surprised if they actually do switch parties. It's just the beginning, pal, you ain't seen nothing yet.

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