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Vice President Cheney warns of new attacks

Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a “high probability” that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration’s policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed.

In an interview Tuesday with Politico, Cheney unyieldingly defended the Bush administration’s support for the Guantanamo Bay prison and coercive interrogation of terrorism suspects.

And he asserted that President Obama will either backtrack on his stated intentions to end those policies or put the country at risk in ways more severe than most Americans — and, he charged, many members of Obama’s own team — understand.

“When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,” Cheney said.

Protecting the country’s security is “a tough, mean, dirty, nasty business,” he said. “These are evil people. And we’re not going to win this fight by turning the other cheek.”

Citing intelligence reports, Cheney said at least 61 of the inmates who were released from Guantanamo during the Bush administration — “that’s about 11 or 12 percent” — have “gone back into the business of being terrorists.”

The 200 or so inmates still there, he claimed, are “the hard core” whose “recidivism rate would be much higher.” (Lawyers for Guantanamo detainees have strongly disputed the recidivism figures, asserting that the Pentagon data have inconsistencies and omissions.) Cheney called Guantanamo a “first-class program,” and “a necessary facility” that is operated legally and with better food and treatment than the jails in inmates' native countries.

But he said he worried that “instead of sitting down and carefully evaluating the policies,” Obama officials are unwisely following “campaign rhetoric” and preparing to release terrorism suspects or afford them legal protections granted to more conventional defendants in crime cases.

The choice, he alleged, reflects a naive mindset among the new team in Washington: “The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected. Sometimes, that requires us to take actions that generate controversy. I’m not at all sure that that’s what the Obama administration believes.”

The dire portrait Cheney painted of the country’s security situation was made even grimmer by his comments agreeing with analysts who believe this recession may be a once-in-a-century disaster.
“It’s unlike anything I’ve ever seen,” Cheney said. “The combination of the financial crisis that started last year, coupled now with, obviously, a major recession, I think we’re a long way from having solved these problems.”

The interview, less than two weeks after the Bush administration ceded power to Obama, found the man who is arguably the most controversial — and almost surely the most influential — vice president in U.S. history in a self-vindicating mood.

He expressed confidence that files will some day be publicly accessible offering specific evidence that waterboarding and other policies he promoted — over sharp internal dissent from colleagues and harsh public criticism — were directly responsible for averting new Sept. 11-style attacks.

Not content to wait for a historical verdict, Cheney said he is set to plunge into his own memoirs, feeling liberated to describe behind-the-scenes roles over several decades in government now that the “statute of limitations has expired” on many of the most sensitive episodes.

His comments made unmistakable that Cheney — likely more than former President Bush, who has not yet given post-White House interviews — is willing and even eager to spar with the new administration and its supporters over the issues he cares most about.

His standing in this public debate is beset by contradictions. Cheney for years has had intimate access to the sort of highly classified national security intelligence that Obama and his teams are only recently seeing.

But many of the top Democratic legal and national security players have long viewed Cheney as a man who became unhinged by his fears, responsible for major misjudgments in Iraq and Afghanistan, willing to bend or break legal precedents and constitutional principles to advance his aims. Polls show he is one of the most unpopular people in national life.

In the interview, Cheney revealed no doubts about his own course — and many about the new administration’s.

“If it hadn’t been for what we did — with respect to the terrorist surveillance program, or enhanced interrogation techniques for high-value detainees, the Patriot Act, and so forth — then we would have been attacked again,” he said. “Those policies we put in place, in my opinion, were absolutely crucial to getting us through the last seven-plus years without a major-casualty attack on the U.S.”

Cheney said “the ultimate threat to the country” is “a 9/11-type event where the terrorists are armed with something much more dangerous than an airline ticket and a box cutter – a nuclear weapon or a biological agent of some kind” that is deployed in the middle of an American city.

“That’s the one that would involve the deaths of perhaps hundreds of thousands of people, and the one you have to spend a hell of a lot of time guarding against,” he said.

“I think there’s a high probability of such an attempt. Whether or not they can pull it off depends whether or not we keep in place policies that have allowed us to defeat all further attempts, since 9/11, to launch mass-casualty attacks against the United States.”

Cheney warns of new attacks - John F. Harris and Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei - Politico.com

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PLEASE!PLEASE! Same old FEAR Mongering SONG! I truly hope that SOB, lays awake at night WORRIED!! He needs to Travel more. I suggest a long Vacation in the NETHERLANDS.
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Yeah after 8 years of incompetence I am certain that the pool of bad guys never shrunk, on the contrary it has grown and it's safe to bet that they could strike;so yeah, he's right! Who's fault is that?
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PLEASE!PLEASE! Same old FEAR Mongering SONG! I truly hope that SOB, lays awake at night WORRIED!! He needs to Travel more. I suggest a long Vacation in the NETHERLANDS.
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The guy is a fucking liar who is wrong about everything.

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Yeah after 8 years of incompetence I am certain that the pool of bad guys never shrunk, on the contrary it has grown and it's safe to bet that they could strike;so yeah, he's right! Who's fault is that?
Who again said we were winning????
You might want to actually READ the article...

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If they had done a good job after 9/11 he should feel very secure that the country is safe. Is he maybe feeling that those policies were somewhat lacking in their thoroughness and success?

It reads like an attempt to rationalize his philosophy and cast Fear, Uncertainty, Confusion and Dread on Obama's concepts of "obeying the law". His side lost. Time for him to STFU.

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What the Vice President is worried about is that if the Obama administration starts hacking away at the counter-terrorism measures that have kept us safe, the terrorists will be much more likely to succeed in the future. THAT WORRIES ME TOO. And it should worry all of you as well.

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What the Vice President is worried about is that if the Obama administration starts hacking away at the counter-terrorism measures that have kept us safe, the terrorists will be much more likely to succeed in the future. THAT WORRIES ME TOO. And it should worry all of you as well.
I don't worry about a country that obeys its laws. I do worry about a country that doesn't. I would rather see us on the moral high road than the low road.

If the Bush Administration had truly kept us safe, we will still be safe. If they only gave the perception of safety with Draconian measures, we really were never safe.

My concerns have always been that, while we put window dressing of TSA antics of 3oz fluid bottles limits on air flights, we were, at the same time only checking 3-5% of all containers coming into the ports of the US. While we were invading a country that had NO terrorists at the time that had an interest in hurting the US, we had a 1969 mile Border with Mexico that was an open sieve. WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT [OR WHO] IS IN THIS COUNTRY.

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