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Nevermind, FTL beat me to it.

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Smells like somebody just passed gas in here...

Don't believe everything you think
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The last time I listened to Rush he was very clear that he wanted the President to succeed! He just doesn't like his socialist leanings. Big difference!
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Smells like somebody just passed gas in here...
It was probably you, you drink this instead of coffee in the morning, it will just turn you into a fucking gas bag:


Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address

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Jay your reference to Russ L's wish for our president, reminds me of the old addage" Wish in One Hand, Shit in the Other" so blatent.
Listening to Rush is what turned J into an


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-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Look at what these guys are turning into, I stumbled on this right wing site while looking for the pic:

Pat Dollard | Young Americans | Blog Archive Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution

The claim is a lie, I mean, is the truth so bad for them they have to resort to blantant lies all the time? Read the comments, there are threats of violence and just general all-round nutcase crap. These guys are losing touch with reality, it won't be long before one of them goes Timothy McVeigh - if I was to bet on the next terrorist attack, it will be an American Right-Winger, not Al Queda.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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The economy shrank at only 3.8% in 4Q--less than half of what many "experts" were predicting. The "experts" were predicting a decline of 6.5% to 7.5%. Even our own little Bad News Bear was stating, unequivocally, that "The Number was going to be 5.5%", earlier in the week. So much for the "experts." It is starting to look like we may be in a recession--though milder than expected--but we won't know for sure until the revised and final GDP number is revealed in about a month.
Yep, ONLY a -3.8 SLAM. GREAT.

I am really glad that I was wrong. -5.5 would be a worse hole to dig out of. And I really don't recall seeing any numbers that predicted -7.5%, though I am sure someone called for -10 as well as +10.

And actually the revised numbers won't be out for two months. But keep trying.

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For 2008, the economy/GDP grew +1.3 percent! Though I admit it doesn't look like the economy will grow in 2009, if any of you doom-sayers would stop bitching long enough to examine the actual grow data you may not want to jump out of the window--though I think it would be good for all of us if you did.
And tell us skippy, do you know WHY that number has a positive balance?

Here is a little hint:


Exxon Mobil sets record with $45.2 billion profit
Exxon Mobil shatters US record with $45.2 billion annual profit despite year-end oil plunge


HOUSTON (AP) -- Exxon Mobil Corp. on Friday reported a profit of $45.2 billion for 2008, breaking its own record for a U.S. company, even as its fourth-quarter earnings fell 33 percent from a year ago.

The previous record for annual profit was $40.6 billion, which the world's largest publicly traded oil company set in 2007.

The extraordinary full-year profit wasn't a surprise given crude's triple-digit price for much of 2008, peaking near an unheard of $150 a barrel in July. Since then, however, prices have fallen roughly 70 percent amid a deepening global economic crisis.

In the fourth quarter alone crude tumbled 60 percent, prompting spending and job cuts in an industry that was reporting robust, often record, profits as recently as last summer.

With piles of cash and diversified operations, the majors like Exxon Mobil have fared better than many smaller oil and gas companies, but Friday's results show no one is completely insulated from the ongoing malaise.

Irving, Texas-based Exxon said net income slid sharply to $7.8 billion, or $1.55 a share, in the October-December period. That compared with $11.7 billion, or $2.13 a share, in the same period a year ago, when Exxon set a U.S. record for quarterly profit. It has since topped that mark twice, first in last year's second quarter and then with earnings of $14.83 billion in the third quarter.

Revenue in the most-recent quarter fell 27 percent to $84.7 billion.

Both the per-share and revenue results topped Wall Street forecasts. On average, analysts expected the company to earn $1.45 a share in the latest quarter on revenue of $69.1 billion, according to Thomson Reuters.

Shares rose $1.52, or 2 percent, to $78.52 in early trading.

The nation's second largest oil company, Chevron Corp., reported profits of $4.9 billion for the fourth quarter, though revenues slid 26 percent with oil prices in sharp decline.

It earned $2.44 per share in the three months ended Dec. 31. Like Exxon, Chevron easily beat expectations of analysts, who were looking for profits of $1.81 per share.

The industry went into retrenchment toward the end of the year with demand falling.

As expected, Exxon Mobil's bottom line took a beating from its exploration and production, or upstream, arm, where net income fell 31 percent to $5.6 billion. The culprit: lower crude prices, which the company said decreased earnings by $3.2 billion in the fourth quarter alone.

The company, which produces about 3 percent of the world's oil, said overall output fell 3 percent in the most-recent period, a troubling trend in previous quarters. Exxon, which generates more than two-thirds of its earnings from oil and gas production, said production-sharing contracts and OPEC quotas contributed to its lower output.

Results were better at its refining and marketing unit, where earnings rose 6 percent to $2.4 billion as higher margins overcame costs related to last summer's hurricanes and other factors.

The company's chemical division also took a hit, posting net income of $155 million versus $1.1 billion a year ago. Results were hurt by lower volumes and margins and hurricane-repair costs.

Exxon Mobil said it bought 119 million shares of its common stock in the quarter at a cost of $8.8 billion. Roughly $8 billion of that amount was dedicated to reducing the number of shares outstanding; the balance was used to offset shares issued as part of the company's benefit plans.

Exxon said it spent $26.1 billion on capital and exploration projects last year, up 25 percent from 2007. Its earnings release provided no information about its planned spending for 2009.

For the full year, Exxon Mobil's massive profit amounted to $8.69 a share, versus $7.28 a share a year ago.

Exxon Mobil sets record with $45.2 billion profit - Yahoo! Finance

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Yep, and they keep on crying thatthe public is being unfair because they are just breaking even you know
If they were not such hypocrites then such enormous profits would be acceptable.
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Those Assholes, These sourses within the Pentagon they reference, who are they? Its Bull Shit!!
They've got it all over the right-wing-o-verse, I'm finding it everywhere. In reading the comments, it is obviously a direct incitement to violence. There is a fairly large group of right wingers in this country who want to start shooting. Looking at what Limbaugh said, and now reading on the other top RWNJ site "World Net Daily" calling for adherents to "pray" that Obama fails:

The Hillbilly Patriot Site - World Net Daily, Pray Obama Fails

they are going to take another page out of Hitler's playbook and attempt to destablize the country so they can come back into power, and like the Germans, we are about to enter a period of right-wing violence and murder. Their leaders are inciting them to it.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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They've got it all over the right-wing-o-verse, I'm finding it everywhere. In reading the comments, it is obviously a direct incitement to violence. There is a fairly large group of right wingers in this country who want to start shooting. Looking at what Limbaugh said, and now reading on the other top RWNJ site "World Net Daily" calling for adherents to "pray" that Obama fails:

The Hillbilly Patriot Site - World Net Daily, Pray Obama Fails

they are going to take another page out of Hitler's playbook and attempt to destablize the country so they can come back into power, and like the Germans, we are about to enter a period of right-wing violence and murder. Their leaders are inciting them to it.
And the saddest thing is that many of these people who believe these liars and hypocrites, are honest God fearing folks who work hard for a living, while Limbaugh sits on his fat ass spewing hatred for a mere $ 50 million a year.

We don't have a "Caesar" in this country? Not anymore, that's true, but we had one for the last 8 years.

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