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The rules I was talking about were put in place so that the folks working on those ships didn't blow the fucking things up by mistake. Imagine some guy sitting on the aft deck, lighting a cigarette, and wham. Have you ever seen an explosion of liquid natural gas. Similar to an atomic bomb going off. There wouldn't be enough of anything left to even identify it as a ship, never mind those who served on it.

As for the pirates, how about the US provide (for a fee of course) some RPV's (as in predator aircraft) along with their support crews, to patrol the heaviest traveled sectors of Eastern Africa, and when these attacks arise, let them cut loose with a missile or two. Those small boats wouldn't be coming home, and neither would the pirates, who would be swimming with the sharks. A fitting end to those low life scum. As well, we'd gain much needed revenue from renting the predator operation to the Arab nations whose ships and oil and LNG are the ones that are being hijacked. Then when they get used to our protection, we could raise the price, say 20 fold. They would of course pay, because it would still be cheaper than what they would be paying in ransom for their ships and crews, never mind their crude oil and gas. And as always, turnaround is fair play. How's that for putting some folks back to work, while at the same time providing a much-needed insurance policy to the oil producing countries, and some positive revenue for the good ole US of A.

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i'm sure russia would havve a thing or two to say about this.
Like "Zdravstvuite" and "Spasibo"?

Or "Nyet"?

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As for the pirates, how about the US provide (for a fee of course) some RPV's (as in predator aircraft) along with their support crews, to patrol the heaviest traveled sectors of Eastern Africa, and when these attacks arise, let them cut loose with a missile or two. Those small boats wouldn't be coming home, and neither would the pirates, who would be swimming with the sharks. A fitting end to those low life scum. As well, we'd gain much needed revenue from renting the predator operation to the Arab nations whose ships and oil and LNG are the ones that are being hijacked. Then when they get used to our protection, we could raise the price, say 20 fold. They would of course pay, because it would still be cheaper than what they would be paying in ransom for their ships and crews, never mind their crude oil and gas. And as always, turnaround is fair play. How's that for putting some folks back to work, while at the same time providing a much-needed insurance policy to the oil producing countries, and some positive revenue for the good ole US of A.

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Did anybody else read this with the Soprano's theme running in their head with Tony wearing an eye patch?

It's time for bed.
I have a picture of Pauly Walnuts on the flying bridge yelling "yo fu$%in paizan! Oh! What da f$%k do you think you doin'?"

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The rules I was talking about were put in place so that the folks working on those ships didn't blow the fucking things up by mistake. Imagine some guy sitting on the aft deck, lighting a cigarette, and wham.

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What the f**k dose smoking a cigarette have to do with proper defenses?
The bad guys are shooting, so why can't the good guys shoot back.


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The bad guys threaten to shoot and the guys operating the ship give up. They cannot afford to be hit, much less engage in some kind of firefight. The pirates need to be burned before they get into range.

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This is an opportunity for Blackwater to pick a job since they lost a big one already. Hey, they get to shoot at real people again but this time there will be almost no outrage. Who wants to sign up? Come on, you get to shoot at live darkies... Oh, they are Muslims too. This has got to be the bestest opportunity for some in here, hurry send your resume before the other wackos get in the fun first.
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What the f**k dose smoking a cigarette have to do with proper defenses?
The bad guys are shooting, so why can't the good guys shoot back.


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He explained this already. The good guys can't shoot back because if you shoot a gun on an oil tanker or natural gas tanker the muzzle flash of the gun has the potential to blow the ship up. Blowing the ship up may prevent it from being taken by pirates, but it doesn't do much to help the crew or the ship. It is the same reason you cant smoke when you are filling your car up with gas.
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The pirates need to be burned before they get into range.
Yes. The best thing we could do would be to sink the so-called "mother ships" at anchor in their home ports. It would be an easy thing to identify them by focusing satellites on the shipping lanes and then seeing which ships the pirate speedboats are launched from. Then you employ whatever remote weapons you deem best to sink them - UAVs would work, so would Tomahawks.
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Like "Zdravstvuite" and "Spasibo"?

Or "Nyet"?

Perestroika, glasnost, Gorbachev.
Eto vsio vi znaete skazat po russki?
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