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Sound woman that,
bet the Muslims would not let any bitch get uppity like that
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Sound woman that,
bet the Muslims would not let any bitch get uppity like that
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You mean like for the extermination of a whole group of people, race or follower of a religion? How about you, would you like to see the Muslims or Arabs exterminated?
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No indeed I would not.
I abhor violence as a means to an end
However if civilized society does not maintain some sort of police or army violence will prevail
because it is evident at every level within every society that there are bad/evil people who will use violence to achieve their ends.
a conundrum indeed
Unfortunately, to take the UK as an example
the militent Muslims insist on the right to be very easy offended
& Fuck the native/origional mostly christian residents
i am afraid despite the teachings / preacings or intent of Mohammad
There a whole lot of nutters in the Muslim ranks
Bit like the christians at the time of the Crusadues ( spelling? doh)
So let us seek a middle ground
The Muslim attitude to woman is also not acceptable, by any reasonable standards
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No indeed I would not.
I abhor violence as a means to an end
However if civilized society does not maintain some sort of police or army violence will prevail
because it is evident at every level within every society that there are bad/evil people who will use violence to achieve their ends.
a conundrum indeed
Unfortunately, to take the UK as an example
the militent Muslims insist on the right to be very easy offended
& Fuck the native/origional mostly christian residents
i am afraid despite the teachings / preacings or intent of Mohammad
There a whole lot of nutters in the Muslim ranks
Bit like the christians at the time of the Crusadues ( spelling? doh)
So let us seek a middle ground
The Muslim attitude to woman is also not acceptable, by any reasonable standards
Very acceptable answer and I appreciate that you didn't get offended from my attempt at fishing at your expense. I very much respect your answer as it is actually very balanced and reflects the reality of that region, culture and attitudes.
In light of this, I would ask what are our responsibilities as Westerners to try to seek a balance on this planet so Muslim extremist idiots (which they are) can be weakened and have no place in their society where they intimidate not only the local Christians and Jews but the rest of the Muslims that just want to have a life, watch their kids grow up into successful and positive contributors to their culture, society and the rest of humanity?
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In light of this, I would ask what are our responsibilities as Westerners to try to seek a balance on this planet so Muslim extremist idiots (which they are) can be weakened and have no place in their society where they intimidate not only the local Christians and Jews but the rest of the Muslims that just want to have a life, watch their kids grow up into successful and positive contributors to their culture, society and the rest of humanity?
Two simple words: energy independence. If we don't need ME oil then we can disengage ourselves entirely from the ME. Then we don't have to support the atrocities committed by *any* ME government. They can live as they wish to live, govern as they wish to govern, and relate to each other as they wish to relate to each other.

I've said this a hundred times before - it is the West that has given the ME all of its power because of our insatiable thirst for their oil. If we invested in living without their oil, we could then live without pandering to them. All of them.
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Tough one that Drew?
I have no easy answers
And any NI experiences are useless
Since the solution here was merely a "fudge"
The extremists on both sides having being bought off
now that times are hard again, who knows?
I suspect that buzz phrase
"Managment of expections"
could be applied
with perhaps a little "tough love" thrown in
The media and polititions have a lot to answer for.
Endless unsustainable breeding on both side of the Middle East conflict does not help either.
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