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Right. Hence the passage of the 5000 page Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (PATRIOT) Act (catchy huh) passed on October 23, 2001. We're to believe that this document was drafted within 30 days of 9-11? It was in congress in full form on the 12th of October. Normally it takes twice that for some think tank to come up with just the acronym. But, we were scared and pre occupied so we swallowed it.
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I'm going to visit the US one day, see if it really exists.
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I'm going to visit the US one day, see if it really exists.
You can always watch a Hollywood movie, it's cheaper and sometimes safer.
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True but your opinion is not the CINC. As a brother of yours who did not serve in a Combat arms MOS but served in Combat, I think your opinion is in the minority. That opinion being that Iraq was for profit.

When you look at the intelligence as a whole and do not cherry pick the huffington post crap that FTL and McBear would have you believe is truth, you see that we got rid of a tyrant who was killing millions of his own people and destabilizing the region. The same tyrant who was supporting terrorism against the US and his neighbors.
Cool, so what other tyrants do you suggest we get rid of next since that is now YOUR excuse de jour?

Do you suggest we go after China next. Afterall, they have destabilized their region in the past and killed millions in the past.

I don't believe Iraq was for profit, I think it was Bush's obsession, fed by Cheney and the folks who wanted the job done in 1991 but Bush 1 would due what the UN required and nothing more.

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It wa$ Cheney'$ ob$e$$ion. Hope that help$.

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YOU are ob$e$$ed!

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Former President Bush, Wife Depart for Texas

By Dan Eggen
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Tuesday, January 20, 2009; 4:25 PM

George W. Bush departed Washington today, closing out a presidency that spanned the height of popularity and the depths of public disdain, and flew home to Texas surrounded by family and friends who stood with him even after most of the country stepped away.

Bush returned to being a private citizen shortly after seeing President Obama sworn in at the U.S. Capitol. He blew a kiss out the window of the presidential limousine as he left the White House.

Following the inauguration, Bush and his wife, Laura, boarded a Marine helicopter for Andrews Air Force Base, where they attended a private 20-minute going-away rally in one of the cavernous hangars used to store presidential airplanes.

Finally, far from the masses who thronged the Mall to celebrate Obama's taking office, the Bushes headed for Texas on one of the blue-and-gold Boeing 747s that carried him all over the world. This time, however, the plane was no longer designated Air Force One.

Bush was headed for his boyhood home town of Midland, Tex., the site of a welcome-home rally intended as an echo of a goodbye celebration held there in January 2001. After that, the Bushes planned to fly to the family ranch in Crawford, Tex., for their first night as a former president and first lady.
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Bush's last press secretary, Dana Perino, told reporters prior to the handover of government that Bush was in a jovial mood "the way he always is."

"He hasn't changed," Perino said. "He gave me a big kiss on the forehead."

This morning, Bush welcomed Obama to the White House with a few hearty pats on the arm, then the men posed for the cameras with Laura Bush and Michelle Obama. The two couples proceeded to the Blue Room for coffee with soon-to-be vice president Joe Biden, his wife, Jill, and members of Congress.

"I thank President Bush for his service to our nation as well as the generosity and cooperation he has shown throughout this transition," Obama said during his inaugural address.

The Andrews rally and the flight from Washington were closed to the press corps, with whom Bush had a rocky and often distant relationship. Only a handful of journalists and photographers showed up for a former president who once lured the attention of planeloads of correspondents. About 1,000 people gathered in the hangar and heard extensive remarks by the departing vice president, Dick Cheney, who was in a wheelchair because of a moving-related injury.

The traveling party was a gathering of old friends, including former commerce secretary Don Evans, former attorney general Alberto R. Gonzales and former political adviser Karl Rove. Bush's father and mother, daughters and other relatives were also on the flight.

The goodbyes brought an end to a tenure that Bush himself described as "a period of consequence," when the United States suffered its worst terrorist attack, launched two divisive foreign wars and stumbled under the weight of a collapsing global economy. Bush's popularity was similarly tumultuous, from almost universal approval after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to his fall from public grace during a troubled second term.

Bush offered relatively few regrets at the end and spent much of the past two months forcefully defending his administration's performance, including the decision to invade Iraq and the federal response to Hurricane Katrina. During a brief farewell address to the nation Thursday, Bush said he always had the nation's "best interests" at heart and said he deserved credit for making "tough decisions."

Bush has offered a mixture of predictions about his post-presidency, saying he plans to stay away from the "klieg lights" but also signaling he intends to stay busy with speeches and a possible memoir. He quipped during his last news conference that he didn't see himself "sitting on some beach" in a Hawaiian shirt and straw hat.

Much of Bush's attention will be focused on fundraising and organizing efforts for the $300 million George W. Bush Presidential Center at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, which will include his White House archives, a museum and a think-tank focused on the issues dominant during his presidency.

"I don't think he is the kind of person who is able to just chill out," Perino said. "Chilling out for him will include a lot of exercise."

Dan Bartlett, Bush's longtime counselor who was among those accompanying him on the final trip home, joked in a recent interview that "we're all kind of fearful what the new world will look like. He might be calling a lot."
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"He'll be active, but I think he'll be respectful of the fact that there really is only one president at a time," Bartlett said. "He's always been very sensitive to that."

Bush's departure ceremony at Andrews was marred by one detail, as the red carpet laid out in his honor refused to stay in place amid gusts of frigid wind. In the end, the carpet was removed, leaving empty tarmac instead.
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And now both he and his wife are going to write a book about his disastrous presidency and rake in at least $ 10 M a piece. While the rest of us can count about 1/2 the money we have left in our 401k plans.
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Americans are not really dumb ......
Look at who they elected for 2 terms for president.

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I get a kick out of guys like Monstermog. Quick to pull the trigger when they're not buying the ammo so to speak. It's not their blood and guts strewn about the desert. Having served in combat arms, I appreciate discretion and restraint on the part of our leadership. Of course, it's been in short supply in the last eight years. At one point in my life I, like many others, was trained to kill. That doesn't mean I was anxious to do it. I was also willing to die for my country. But that didn't make me an expendable asset. We're talking about human life here. There's nothing more precious. The US has plenty of enemies. I don't dispute the notion that there are a lot of nasty people in the world who need a one way ticket to meet Allah or their deity of choice. We have ten Super Carrier battle groups and the finest Spec Ops in the world. A few trouble makers can be dispatched without sending 18 year old kids into harm's way and leveling cities. But that's not a money maker. While you can make a loose case for our level of commitment in Afghanistan, Iraq was flat out war profiteering. Hundreds of thousands dead so a few people can pad their portfolios. Take a trip to Walter Reed sometime and look at kids with no arms or legs and then preach to me about how we need to go kick Iran's ass. Cheney is a war profiteer. The whole Bush administration was a conflict of interest. Now I suppose I'll sit back an wait for the obligatory "well they volunteered so they knew what they were getting into"......I suppose you think people are out there dying so they can get their college paid for.
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