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The Real Reason Rich Was Pardoned.

We are supposed to believe that Mark Rich was given a pardon by Clinton so as to entice the Israeli government to make concessions in the face of overwhelming public opinion against these concessions.

First - Mark Rich is not some field agent for the Mossad. He is a wealthy playboy businessman. We are supposed believe the author that Rich is some secret agent along the likes of Zohan maybe?

Second - The Israeli leadership could have cared less about Rich unless he had some kind of embarrassing evidence against them. Politicians are the same the world over. They are loyal so long as it suits their needs. They needed to get elected so they were either counting on Rich's money or that he would have some evidence that would embarrass them.

So if he was not a field agent that could garner some evidence of the type that would cause embarrassment to the Israeli Leadership then it must have been his money.

So he buys the influence of the Israeli's because for some reason or other he could not buy Bill Clinton. Clinton is desperately looking to add something to his legacy other than the Lewinsky affair and he wants this peace aggreement. So the Israeli's make Rich's pardon a piece of the puzzle, Clinton gets his Peace agreement and all he has to do is make a pardon.

Well there you have it. The real reason Rich was pardoned was because he bought he has the talent of discerning who has real influence.

The real reason Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich | Salon

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Let me get this, can you explain what this means (from TNT's linked article)
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But Holder understood that there were deeper reasons why the pardon was likely to be approved, which had nothing to do with the political and charitable contributions of Rich's ex-wife, the Manhattan socialite Denise Rich. The New York Times offered just a hint in a front-page story that appeared shortly after the Holder nomination was announced. Only at the very end did the Times mention the pressure from "the Israelis" that had persuaded Holder not to oppose the pardon -- as he told Beth Nolan, then the White House counsel.
Why are the Israelis so deep up our rectum?
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The pressure came from Clinton's desire to reshape his legacy. His desperate grabs for a peace plan for Israel that he could take credit for. That is where the Israeli's have their influence.

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The pressure came from Clinton's desire to reshape his legacy. His desperate grabs for a peace plan for Israel that he could take credit for. That is where the Israeli's have their influence.
So in way you're saying that we actually set ourselves up by being overly zealous in sustaining such influence, even if it's imaginary, right?
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So in way you're saying that we actually set ourselves up by being overly zealous in sustaining such influence, even if it's imaginary, right?
No I am saying that Clinton put himself in a position to be extorted. But in true Clinton form he got the last laugh with Rich. As a part of Rich's Pardon he (Rich) must pay back tens of millions of dollars. So it was a Pyrrhic victory for Rich.

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No I am saying that Clinton put himself in a position to be extorted. But in true Clinton form he got the last laugh with Rich. As a part of Rich's Pardon he (Rich) must pay back tens of millions of dollars. So it was a Pyrrhic victory for Rich.
Just like he did with Monica
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One would think we have enough problems in the present world than to be regurgitating decade-old crap. Who gives a shit.

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