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1. I'm not American, nor UAE national/Emirati nor anything else. The document I use to travel is a shamefu bunch of papers.

2. Why don't American Jews move to the Jewish State?

Some people have no nationality, others have two. I had to lose my identity to give jews anywhere on earth the right to chose between their 'current' nationality and a new one on my homeland. Sweet
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Resistance, in the form of Hamas and other factions, gave us the Gaza Strip back.. something no diplomacy nor so-called peace talks ever accomplished. Resistance seems to work.
What an utterly contemptible and ignorant statement.


Here's all anyone needs to know about this current conflict:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...62BFAF5573C%7D

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Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in August 2005. Since then, Hamas has fired thousands of rockets into civilian areas of Israel.

The group demands that Israel open its borders and release control of the waterways outside Gaza. Critics say Hamas has done little to rehabilitate the area's refugee camps and begin building the infrastructure for a state.

Hamas is classified as a terrorist organization by the U.S., the European Union and Israel.

The organization, which has sworn to destroy Israel, won a majority in the parliament of the Palestinian Authority - the administrative organization established to govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip - in a January 2006 vote. In mid-2007, Hamas forcibly took control of the Gaza Strip from the PA.
There you have it, and there you are. The actions of Hamas are those of a mentally handicapped bully. Resistance my ass.

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Why? Do you get paid for being patriotic?

I only vent some steam here, in the process trying to make a few people aware of my people's plight.
You don't seem very angry lately. In fact, your writing/reporting has gone cold and methodical just as the crisis is reaching its climaaax.
And I was totally surprised at the "humor" when things are coming to a head in the Gaza strip.
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What an utterly contemptible and ignorant statement.


Here's all anyone needs to know about this current conflict:

Israel stages ground invasion of Gaza in ninth day of fighting - MarketWatch



There you have it, and there you are. The actions of Hamas are those of a mentally handicapped bully. Resistance my ass.
Uh huh, so Israel just withdrew and poof, nothing more...right? Israel loafed about when all of a sudden those big bad old Ayrabs just went apeshit for no reason whatsoever. Puhleeze
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Israel's fault? No it is the fault of both parties... However I did not intend to make it seems like it was always Israel's fault...... Since it is not just them it is also the Fault of the US Government who has allowed the wool to be pulled over its eyes, It is the fault of People who defend the way Israel just gets everything it wants

Its The Fault of thoses who just simply look the other way when Israel just does as it damn well pleases yet when Palestinians try to break free of the chains being put down around the Word Terrorist get screamed out very loudly and they just go "oh! thoses damn terrorist!" and look the other way.

It is the Fault of the Corupt Palestinian government that failed the people they were suppose to work for and that allowed the extremists to take control of the government.

It is the fault of those who so blindly think that every word that comes from the Jewish state is true... (sound familier mllfy?)
The Hamas faction can (if it has the will) to blast a hole in that "border" between it and Egypt , so its own people can get refuge elsewhere away from the war zone. Unfortunately, they rather do nothing but incit Israel into action and hope someone else would hammer Israel.
If the "border" is indeed breached and refugee camps are set up, the international community would be giving them humanitarian aid. Egypt would be hard pressed to exercise lethal force against these refugees.

Israel is one country which has the will power to do what it thinks is the right course of action, right (no pun intended) or wrong. You can fault them, that is your right as well.

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What an utterly contemptible and ignorant statement.


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Thanks for the compliment.

the source you refer to as all one needs to know about the coflict (What an utterly contemptible and ignorant statement ) fails miserably to mention the number of air raids, ground offensives and rocket attacks that Israel committed.

Remember the propaganda machine behind the US invasion of Iraq? It's tenfold when it comes to the Palestinian question. Ever since I joined BWOT, I had the impression that there are a lot of men of conscience. I think you're one of them. That's why I'd really like if you get your information from both sides and balance them yourself to form an informed opinion.

This cartoon sums up what's been happening.
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Israeli forces split Gaza in two

Israeli forces split Gaza in two

Israeli ground troops and heavy armour have moved deeper into the Gaza Strip, in effect cutting the territory in two.

Supported by a naval, air and land bombardment, forces have taken up positions on either side of Gaza City, and along a major east-west road.

The Palestinian health ministry says more than 50 people have been killed since the ground operation began. One Israeli soldier has been killed.

Earlier, US Vice-President Dick Cheney defended the Israeli ground assault.

In an interview with CBS television, Mr Cheney said air attacks were not enough to destroy the sites from which militants were firing rockets into Israel.

He also said Israel had not sought US approval before doing so.

Israeli President Shimon Peres meanwhile rejected calls for a ceasefire, but insisted his country did not intend to re-occupy Gaza or crush Hamas.

The Palestinian Authority President, Mahmoud Abbas, said he was doing all he could to stop Israel's "vicious aggression".

A European Union mission has flown to the region. The bloc's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, said the crisis represented a failure of diplomacy.

In other developments:

* An Israeli missile hit a house in Shujaiya, killing a mother and four of her children, officials at al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City told the BBC
* At least 17 people were killed and 130 injured when Israeli shells fell near a school and the main market in Gaza City, Palestinian health ministry officials said
* At least 32 missiles were fired into southern Israel from Gaza. Two people were lightly wounded in the Eshkol region, while one woman was slightly injured in Sderot
* In the West Bank, there were angry protests against the Israeli offensive. A Palestinian man was shot dead by Israeli troops who confronted youths near the town of Qalqilya, medical sources said.

Many claims cannot be verified. Israel is refusing to let international journalists into Gaza, despite a Supreme Court ruling to allow a limited number of reporters to enter the territory.

'Face-to-face battles'

As night fell, widespread blackouts plunged much of Gaza into darkness. However, the flashes of explosions could clearly be seen from the northern border, and the regular sounds of gun and artillery fire heard.

During the day, the fighting appeared to move away from the northern end of the territory, towards more populous areas in the west, correspondents say.

Later, Israeli military sources and witnesses said Israeli tanks and heavy armour had taken up positions on either side of Gaza City, in effect cutting Gaza into two parts, from the Karni crossing to the Mediterranean Sea.

The town of Beit Hanoun was also reportedly surrounded.

According to Hamas officials and witnesses, the main fighting is now centred on four areas: east of the Jabaliya refugee camp; in the Zeitoun neighbourhood to the east of Gaza City; on the coastal road close to the site of the former Jewish settlement of Netzarim, south of Gaza City; and in an uninhabited area in the centre of Gaza.

Hamas said its fighters were in some cases engaged in "face-to-face battles" with Israeli soldiers.

Earlier, the Israeli military said the militants were not engaging its troops in close combat but using mortars and improvised bombs.

The Palestinian health ministry says more than 500 Palestinians, mostly civilians, have now been killed since the Israelis began their assault on Gaza eight days ago. A further 2,500 have been wounded.

The Israeli military says one of its soldiers has been killed and 32 wounded in the ground offensive, at least two of them seriously. It believes about 80% of the Palestinians killed were Hamas members.

Hamas officials say that 10 of its fighters have so far been killed.

'Trickle of aid'

The BBC's Rushdi Abu Alouf in Gaza City says the fighting and Israeli positions have stopped desperately-needed medical supplies getting through to hospitals.

On Sunday, Palestinian Health Minister Dr Fathi Abumoghli said the Israeli military was restricting the movement of ambulances, leading to casualties dying before they could receive treatment. One doctor and two paramedics had been killed, he said.

Later, the charity Oxfam also said a paramedic working for a partner organisation had been killed and two others injured by an Israeli shell.

Oxfam also complained that the "trickle of humanitarian aid that Israel has sometimes allowed in" had dried up since the start of the ground offensive, and said it had been forced to suspend its work, apart from emergency medical aid.

The Israeli government says 400 truckloads of humanitarian aid has been allowed into Gaza since the operation began, but many agencies say deliveries have been insufficient, and that it is difficult to get supplies to where they are most needed.

The main aid crossing point at Rafah has also been closed while Israel troops attempt to destroy tunnels under the border with Egypt.
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Resistance, in the form of Hamas and other factions, gave us the Gaza Strip back.. something no diplomacy nor so-called peace talks ever accomplished. Resistance seems to work.
And thus the circle of the ring is completed. Good going.
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Many claims cannot be verified. Israel is refusing to let international journalists into Gaza, despite a Supreme Court ruling to allow a limited number of reporters to enter the territory.
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The main aid crossing point at Rafah has also been closed while Israel troops attempt to destroy tunnels under the border with Egypt.
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Did these international journalists ask Egypt for permission to enter via the south ?

Rafah has been closed, by whom ? The report above insinuates Israel.
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You don't seem very angry lately. In fact, your writing/reporting has gone cold and methodical just as the crisis is reaching its climaaax.
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To quote drew, is this a good thing or a bad thing?


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And I was totally surprised at the "humor" when things are coming to a head in the Gaza strip
My husband was worried about one of his uncles who could not be reached all day. Finally, he answered the phone and, thanks God, all our folks there are fine. That was good news plus the news that Israeli troops are suffering on the ground.
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