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The point here that everyone is missing or ignoring is that President Bush could have been a hero of the Republican party, and possibly changed the outcome of the election, if he had caved to world pressure to cut and run--but he did not!
The point is that he would have been a hero if he had tracked down OBL and focused on the War against Terrorists instead of his little Iraq folly which only served to increase hate against the US.

And how would a stand down after "Mission Accomplished" be considered "cut and run"? It is what one does after a war.

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Not really sure how old you are.
At least during those two events, we were still a formidable power who could easily build a coalition at the drop of a hat when we needed to. We did not have a foreign policy that had crippled that ability.

And while our exit from Viet Nam was less than graceful, it was not due to weakness. And the rest of the country, even though we were in an oil crisis at the same time and inflation was in double digits, we still had a strong manufacturing base and were still the strongest economic power on Earth.

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At least during those two events, we were still a formidable power who could easily build a coalition at the drop of a hat when we needed to. We did not have a foreign policy that had crippled that ability.
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And while our exit from Viet Nam was less than graceful, it was not due to weakness. And the rest of the country, even though we were in an oil crisis at the same time and inflation was in double digits, we still had a strong manufacturing base and were still the strongest economic power on Earth.
I haven't had to push my car to a gas station this time like I had to back then.

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President Bush said "The biggest disappointment in the political process, that's been this kind of bitterness by a few people to the point where they don't want to have a logical discussion or a civil discussion about policy," he said. "They just want to tear you down."

I detect that same bitterness here, and it is very disappointing here as well. Many of you don't want to have a logical discussion or a civil discussion about policy, you just want to tear him down. And how sad it is!
We have plenty of discussion. But when the man has failed so much, so badly, he is going to be torn apart. That is just how life is.

I note that you don't see the same "just want to tear you down" focus against politicians who don't get in over their head, stay there [or stay the course] and critically damage this country. Those folks, both dem and rep get fair treatment by all discussions. It is only the incompetents that get torn apart.

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Osama Bin Laden is still not in jail.

If he is the mastermind of the Sept, 11, 2001 attacks, which were carried out by Saudi Arabian Citizens, then why is he still at large?
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Hey Dig, I rooted for the Giants to win, are you ready for the gambling trip. Also I need that $50,000 back that I paid that Referee for that Delay of game call.
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I haven't had to push my car to a gas station this time like I had to back then.
Ah yes, the start of the fitness craze.

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wow. okay.....
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