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Imagine how much the govt would save yearly on repairs alone if they purchased from Toyota, Nissan, and Honda instead. These 3 could also outfit a lot of their sedans with V-8s for cruisers. These vehicles could also be used 2-3x more and longer. Honda motorcycles should be used in place of Harleys as well.
A little test bed might blow your theory away.

In NYC one enterprising TAXI service replaced Crown Vics with Camrys back in 1999. By the time I left NYC in Dec 2001, he was back to all Crown Vics.

Another story. Lexington, Kentucky, pretty much home of the Camry. On two separate occasions we have tried Camrys as police cruisers and as city services vehicles. On both occasions the Police went back to either Crown Vics or to Chargers as they are more dependable, last longer and are less costly to repair. City services vehicles are now a mix with Malibus and Tauruses as the primary cars as they LAST LONGER and have less overall cost.

For several years I have had a little shop that repaired cars. It was mainly to keep the very good mechanics in money as they worked on my cars. The bread and butter cars that they made the most money on were Camrys and Accords and Corollas with 130-150,000 miles. I would have to go through four years of spreadsheets to count how many engine and transmission rebuilds we did in that time on those cars. And at 10 years old, they are pretty much junkyard cars. There is no big "value add" to the Toyota, Honda, Nissan. I have worked on everything from Porsche and Mercedes to Mitsubishi and Kia and, after the first 36 months, the Japanese manufacturers have the very same issues as the American manufacturers.

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Yep.
Why was there no outrage from the Right that we were supporting UAW 862 with these tax giveaways?
IMO Dems made this whole bailout thing political. This was a perfect chance for a non-partisan effort in DC but as usual ... Failed. (to be fair, both sides failed)
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IMO Dems made this whole bailout thing political. This was a perfect chance for a non-partisan effort in DC but as usual ... Failed. (to be fair, both sides failed)
THIS is one failure I'm willing to live with.
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IMO Dems made this whole bailout thing political. This was a perfect chance for a non-partisan effort in DC but as usual ... Failed. (to be fair, both sides failed)
You might want to read our own Mitch McConnell's comments on the bailout. It was running along very non-partisan, with nearly everyone on board from the White House to most of Congress then he got all wound up. He built a small but tight coalition of Senators from states with foreign make factories and they tried to block it.

But I was asking where the outrage was when Kentucky was providing tax incentives and cash to Ford in an effort to bail out their plants and support the UAW Local 862

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