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He has adopted their position on most key issues ..............
Let's see:

legalize torture of prisoners and ignore Geneva conventions

build private prisons throughout this country, and imprison those who dare question the wisdom of the annointed one

spy on citizens without a warrant

invade and occupy sovereign nations that pose no real threat to this country

ensure that government spending deficit exceeds $ 1 trillion/year for every year while he is in office.

wage wars without end and "pay" for them by giving tax cuts to the rich

plunder the US treasury until there is nothing left

destroy and polute the environment

Did I leave anything out?

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When the GOP has finished melting, Jay will be what they will call an Obama Democrat.

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You missed one: "Fucked us all in the ass".

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Did I leave anything out?
Yeah, you missed a lot. See my thread:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/off-...ming-bush.html

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I love the NeoNeoCon. Full of delusion and grandeur. Acting as if ultrared [or uberrot] Georgia was somehow a "surprise" or "turning point" with it's victory.

Sorry Sarah!, the turning point would have been if McCain had WON. Guess what.

Same delusion as bushie's inability to grasp that his only legacy is that of WORST and no one is believing anything he or they have to say.

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yep....it's one of the fat states...

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I love the NeoNeoCon. Full of delusion and grandeur. Acting as if ultrared [or uberrot] Georgia was somehow a "surprise" or "turning point" with it's victory.

Sorry Sarah!, the turning point would have been if McCain had WON. Guess what.

Same delusion as bushie's inability to grasp that his only legacy is that of WORST and no one is believing anything he or they have to say.
No shit. 41 or 42 really is an ineffective number of Senators for the GOP to mount a fillibuster, so they are deluding themselves if they think this will be much help. Let's take a couple of examples:

Freedom of Choice Act - will Snowe and Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

Immigration Reform- Will McCain, Graham, Snow, Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

Global Warming/Environmental legislation - Will McCain, Graham, Snow, Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

Healthcare Reform- will Snowe and Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

With the Dems breathing down their necks back home, just think of the kind of pressure there will be on Snowe and Collins to jump ship, especially given they are now in what looks like permanently blue states. Hell, they're liberals anyway. Same with Specter, the guy might as well be a Democrat.

Bottom line and IMO, the Dems have effectively a filibuster proof Senate now for all but the most partisan bills - even with the Chambliss win and a possible Coleman win. And if they don't, why, they can just reintroduce the Republican-authored "Constitutional Option" and just do away with the filibuster, a move just about all of the Republicans are on record of supporting. I say, let's compromise, split the difference -we'll make it 55 votes.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address

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whatever... that dude was leading already before she ever got her fat ass in the middle of it.
I couldn't disagree more. I don't think she has a fat ass.
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No shit. 41 or 42 really is an ineffective number of Senators for the GOP to mount a fillibuster, so they are deluding themselves if they think this will be much help. Let's take a couple of examples:

Freedom of Choice Act - will Snowe and Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

Immigration Reform- Will McCain, Graham, Snow, Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

Global Warming/Environmental legislation - Will McCain, Graham, Snow, Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

Healthcare Reform- will Snowe and Collins and Specter vote to fillibuster it? No.

With the Dems breathing down their necks back home, just think of the kind of pressure there will be on Snowe and Collins to jump ship, especially given they are now in what looks like permanently blue states. Hell, they're liberals anyway. Same with Specter, the guy might as well be a Democrat.

Bottom line and IMO, the Dems have effectively a filibuster proof Senate now for all but the most partisan bills - even with the Chambliss win and a possible Coleman win. And if they don't, why, they can just reintroduce the Republican-authored "Constitutional Option" and just do away with the filibuster, a move just about all of the Republicans are on record of supporting. I say, let's compromise, split the difference -we'll make it 55 votes.
You're also assuming that the Dems can keep all 58 or so of their team members in line on a consistent basis.

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