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Who would benefit from the war with Iran?

Price of oil would go thru the roof.

Why, usual suspects.

Russia, Saudi Arabia, emirates.

Oh, yes, Hugo Chavez.

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Yeah, right.

And CIA organized 9/11 too, LOL.

Bear, don't insult my intelligence.
Hey, I was trained to look at ALL potential options, not just the easy ones. And internal trigger is a potential [albeit limited] option.

From Israel, at least there is some historical precedent, although obviously not on that level.

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Israel has over 100 of our high-dollar nuclear warheads, tons of our best military hardware, and a survival instinct unlike any other. We've done enough - helped a people to arm and protect themselves. Perhaps too much, but what's done is done.

Again, I wonder how Israel would act if it was CERTAIN that it COULD NOT rely on the USA to bail it's ass out of any problem they get themselves into.
Oh, any intelligent person, like you, would expect them to just sit there with their geiger counters buzzing while they write their wills out long hand.

Makes me wonder what you'd do if you saw a car screaming down the street bearing down on one of your kids. Yell out, "I helped you with your homework, too much!"

So you can wonder all you want; it's really easy when you aren't in charge and have nothing at stake.

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Hey, I was trained to look at ALL potential options, not just the easy ones. And internal trigger is a potential [albeit limited] option.

From Israel, at least there is some historical precedent, although obviously not on that level.
Hey Bear, do you believe we should protect Israel ?
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qui prodest?

Who would benefit from the war with Iran?

Price of oil would go thru the roof.

Why, usual suspects.

Russia, Saudi Arabia, emirates.

Oh, yes, Hugo Chavez.
But the question regards Tipping Point. WHAT was/has been the tipping point that would allow the conclusion that ""Sometime in the weeks to months ahead, there will be a war launched against Iran."? With very minimal exception events leading up to an invasion is triggered by a cascade of events. The ONLY condition that we see on the table right now is "Iran might have enough material to make a dirty bomb within months and a deliverable weapon within a year or so." That is not a cascade of events. That is an intelligence report only at this point.

Neither Saudi, Russia or the emirates would benefit as THEIR oil would, in many instances be landlocked at that point.

While Chevez might have economic gain, he is way to isolated to be a global saber rattler. He could affect US Oil prices with 50 guys and a few speed boats in the Caribbean much easier.

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Hey, I was trained to look at ALL potential options, not just the easy ones. And internal trigger is a potential [albeit limited] option.

From Israel, at least there is some historical precedent, although obviously not on that level.
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Hey Bear, do you believe we should protect Israel ?
Not particularly.

I don't think we should have an "at all costs" contract with them. They have not proved stable enough to allow that, and they are not particularly convenient as a "forward presence" in the region.

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Not particularly.

I don't think we should have an "at all costs" contract with them. They have not proved stable enough to allow that, and they are not particularly convenient as a "forward presence" in the region.
Well I do. Please explain why I'm wrong from a "Biblical" standpoint.
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But the question regards Tipping Point. WHAT was/has been the tipping point that would allow the conclusion that ""Sometime in the weeks to months ahead, there will be a war launched against Iran."? With very minimal exception events leading up to an invasion is triggered by a cascade of events. The ONLY condition that we see on the table right now is "Iran might have enough material to make a dirty bomb within months and a deliverable weapon within a year or so." That is not a cascade of events. That is an intelligence report only at this point.
You said yourself they DON'T need a deliverable mechanism.

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Neither Saudi, Russia or the emirates would benefit as THEIR oil would, in many instances be landlocked at that point.

While Chevez might have economic gain, he is way to isolated to be a global saber rattler. He could affect US Oil prices with 50 guys and a few speed boats in the Caribbean much easier.
Russia's oil is not coming thru the Persian Gulf / Arabian Sea.

I bet Chavez has learned from some examples, like Noriega, 50 guys and speed boats might be really bad for his health.
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