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Yeah but it's more sensational when Westerners get killed, I wonder why?

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This is in no way justification for these deplorable acts, but for decades India's Muslims have been discriminated against, attacked, and often killed.
Gangs of Hindu ruffians will address suspected Muslims in the traditional Islamic / Arabic greeting, often replied to almost by reflex in kind.
Muslims are attacked and beaten to death so frequently, TV and newspapers have stopped reporting on it.
India's population of 1,150 Bio People has 925 Mio Huindu's, and 154 Mio Muslims apx.

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If you read the original post/article, you'll notice those weren't looking for the Hindu extremists.

They were after Britons and Americans and attacked the places popular among the foreigners.
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If you read the original post/article, you'll notice those weren't looking for the Hindu extremists.

They were after Britons and Americans and attacked the places popular among the foreigners.
Yes, they make better targets and makes us all worked up in fear, that's exactly what they wanted. Did we address the real issue though?
Nah, let's kill those savages

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Yes, they make better targets and makes us all worked up in fear, that's exactly what they wanted. Did we address the real issue though?
Nah, let's kill those savages

This is really a two sided sprike. On the one hand you have the zionist controlled US/British governments going Israel's bidding which enrages the Islamic world, on the other hand Islam is generally a violent religion.

Did you happend to see the damage these "people" are going to countries like France or Sweden?

David Duke speaks very well on this subject.
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This is really a two sided sprike. On the one hand you have the zionist controlled US/British governments going Israel's bidding which enrages the Islamic world, on the other hand Islam is generally a violent religion.

Did you happend to see the damage these "people" are going to countries like France or Sweden?

David Duke speaks very well on this subject.
I have seen what unchecked immigration does to countries like France first hand so yeah but that does not make the immigrant any less human than the host.
On your first point, we both agree! But you have to agree that Islam, Judaism and Christianity are ALL violent religions. The difference today is that we the West have gotten a little bit more sophisticated in our hatred by applying a little hypocrisy on the side while the Muslims are still stuck in the Middle Ages. It's all fuked up if you ask me.

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It's a shame we haven't learned from what happened in Pakistan a few months ago. This shit will be copied as it's very easy to implement, low budget and has maximum impact. You would have to spend millions to even think of countering it.
This model isn't new, I had discussed it with Bot many times over when we bring up Algeria's war for independence from France (See the Battle of Algiers movie if you get a chance). These people will bomb and kill the easiest of targets yet they will be the hardest of targets for us. The only way to get this resolved is to actually look into what the grievances are without bullshit or spin.
I am certain it has nothing to do with Islam or them wanting to convert us to Islam or else. That argument is used by them to rile up support. In reality they are a bunch of murderers, criminals and bastards that deserve to be exterminated but we need to remove their will to fight us. The REAL excuse for fighting us and everything else will crumble if we attack the REAL issue head on and stop being a tool and subject of fear.
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I just got off the phone with my partner's wife in Mumbai. He is trying to track down all of his team [26 Indians and Westerners] while she stays on the phone/computer [they are 10.5 hours ahead]. Mumbai is upsidedown right now.

The Taj is where I stayed when traveling in Mumbai. It is where many Westerners stay. It is as if you are in another world when you are there. Now I assume it is simply Hell.

As Teutone said, Indian Muslim's are treated much like American Blacks were treated in the early part of the 20th Century. In many ways they are considered non persons. This has been boiling up for the past decade but this is the worst of the attacks.

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It's a shame we haven't learned from what happened in Pakistan a few months ago. This shit will be copied as it's very easy to implement, low budget and has maximum impact. You would have to spend millions to even think of countering it.
This model isn't new, I had discussed it with Bot many times over when we bring up Algeria's war for independence from France (See the Battle of Algiers movie if you get a chance). These people will bomb and kill the easiest of targets yet they will be the hardest of targets for us. The only way to get this resolved is to actually look into what the grievances are without bullshit or spin.
I am certain it has nothing to do with Islam or them wanting to convert us to Islam or else. That argument is used by them to rile up support. In reality they are a bunch of murderers, criminals and bastards that deserve to be exterminated but we need to remove their will to fight us. The REAL excuse for fighting us and everything else will crumble if we attack the REAL issue head on and stop being a tool and subject of fear.
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I just got off the phone with my partner's wife in Mumbai. He is trying to track down all of his team [26 Indians and Westerners] while she stays on the phone/computer [they are 10.5 hours ahead]. Mumbai is upsidedown right now.

The Taj is where I stayed when traveling in Mumbai. It is where many Westerners stay. It is as if you are in another world when you are there. Now I assume it is simply Hell.

As Teutone said, Indian Muslim's are treated much like American Blacks were treated in the early part of the 20th Century. In many ways they are considered non persons. This has been boiling up for the past decade but this is the worst of the attacks.
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