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Dear Jim,

I am a fairly conservative (with some liberal leanings) white male in the 45 to 60 age group. I frequently use the internet to expand my knowledge and am pleased to find this thread in which you offer detailed and thoughtful advice.

During a recent search for various interpretations of the Bible verse found in the Gospel of John, chapter 11, verse 35. "Jesus wept ", which as you are undoubtedly aware, is a phrase famous for being the shortest verse in the King James Version of the Bible, I was hopscotching from link to link when I stumbled across this image.


In the spirit of John, chapter 11, verse 35, is there a missing element which, if included, would provide insight for me and others both similar and dissimilar, into a socialistic society or does it stand alone as a perfect model?



And why?
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Where's your Jayhawk-inspired sig? Or is it Shane inspired?

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You have no imagination. It's all about attention to detail.

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Your assertion and graphic merely reinforce your own fantasy that what has happened in the last election is somehow leading to "socialism". Obama simply has proposed that the tax structure be returned back to what it was before Bush took office. How you guys get "share the wealth" out of that is an insight into how intellectually bankrupt the right has become. How about "share the cost of government" - especially given the fact that your party has added unneeded trillions to the national debt?

The rich in this country benefit by a disproportionate amount from our system of government and our economic system and from the military-industrial complex's profits and high paying jobs. It's about fucking time they paid for it, instead of getting what amounts to free money from our granchildren in the form of deficit-financed "tax cuts", a wealth transfer that rivals anything Marx could have thought up.

What is most telling in the decline of the right is that fear has now become the mainstay of their message. While the rest of this country is trying it's damndest to get beyond the age of partisanship, the right wing fear message is still relentless. Fear of Obama. Fear of an America that is not the so-called "real America". Fear of homosexuals. Fear of a fairer economic system, in fact, fear of the future. The reality is that a big percentage of this Congress consists of Democrats elected to previously Republican districts, and a President who won the election by appealing to the middle of the political spectrum. The idea they are 'socialists' is utterly ludicrous. The Republican Party has put the nation's ox in a big ditch, and if they don't want to help pull it out, well, fuck them, we now have a working majority in this country that could last for decades as the GOP becomes a modern version of the old Know Nothing Party - a bunch of fools who were unable to adjust to the realities of a new century.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address

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Will you put a band-aid on that and stop picking at it? Blood, blood everywhere. Every damn time...
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Your assertion and graphic merely reinforce your own fantasy that what has happened in the last election is somehow leading to "socialism". Obama simply has proposed that the tax structure be returned back to what it was before Bush took office. How you guys get "share the wealth" out of that is an insight into how intellectually bankrupt the right has become. How about "share the cost of government" - especially given the fact that your party has added unneeded trillions to the national debt?

The rich in this country benefit by a disproportionate amount from our system of government and our economic system and from the military-industrial complex's profits and high paying jobs. It's about fucking time they paid for it, instead of getting what amounts to free money from our granchildren in the form of deficit-financed "tax cuts", a wealth transfer that rivals anything Marx could have thought up.

What is most telling in the decline of the right is that fear has now become the mainstay of their message. While the rest of this country is trying it's damndest to get beyond the age of partisanship, the right wing fear message is still relentless. Fear of Obama. Fear of an America that is not the so-called "real America". Fear of homosexuals. Fear of a fairer economic system, in fact, fear of the future. The reality is that a big percentage of this Congress consists of Democrats elected to previously Republican districts, and a President who won the election by appealing to the middle of the political spectrum. The idea they are 'socialists' is utterly ludicrous. The Republican Party has put the nation's ox in a big ditch, and if they don't want to help pull it out, well, fuck them, we now have a working majority in this country that could last for decades as the GOP becomes a modern version of the old Know Nothing Party - a bunch of fools who were unable to adjust to the realities of a new century.
That's not in the spirit of John, chapter 11, verse 35, now is it? Sometimes, a dinosaur is just a dinosaur.


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You have no imagination. It's all about attention to detail.
That signature represents an unholy marriage of monstrous and ghastly proportions. Epic in it's scale. The end of the world, truly, is nigh.
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That signature represents an unholy marriage of monstrous and ghastly proportions. Epic in it's scale. The end of the world, truly, is nigh.
I had an idea to make it even better (which is really worse but not in this sense, I think?) but in the spirit of John, chapter 11, verse 35, I decided not to.

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I'm more into John 10:8


Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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