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Israelis of Conscience

There have been many, but these are "settlers" who have dared to question the "settler" policies themselves.



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Benny Raz, 55, who has lived with his family in the settlement of Karnei Shomron since the mid-1990s, began to call for a way out in the past few years, asking the government to buy his house and those of his fellow settlers.

“My neighbors looked at me like I was a traitor or from another planet,” he recounted. He said that he was fired from his job in charge of settlement bus drivers and that his wife’s sandwich stand was boycotted and driven out of business.

“I get threatening phone calls telling me I am going to be killed,” he said. “Today, I carry a gun because I am afraid of the Jews, not the Arabs.”
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On the other hand, ultra orthodox settlers make a larger percentage. Take the town of Hebron for example, where 500 Israeli settlers make life hell for 166,000+ Palestinians. I don't know if you've ever heard of Baruch Goldstein's deadly massacre in 1994. The man wasn't a lunatic on drugs. He was a physician who planned and executed a heinous crime killing 50 Palestinians and injuring 150. And he's a hero to the likes of him. His grave is a a pilgrimage site
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500 to 166,000 now that's a fair balance to what life is worth one either side, right?
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Israel is once again tightening its stranglehold on Gaza, prohibiting U.N. relief shipments of food, fuel, and medicine.

The reason given: Hamas fired rockets into southern Israel (no one was injured).

Now, I'm practiced at this, so naturally I look for more. And sure enough, the Hamas attacks were preceded by the slaughter of 10 more Palestinians by Israel. And as usual, this salient fact was completely unreported in the English-language media. Making it look (to British and Americans) as though Hamas had once again started the violence on its own.

Middle East - Gaza flare-up threatens truce
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you couldn't be suggesting that the Israelis would do anything nefarious - could you???

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you couldn't be suggesting that the Israelis would do anything nefarious - could you???
..or something like this
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Eviction in battle for East Jerusalem
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you couldn't be suggesting that the Israelis would do anything nefarious - could you???

I am surprised someone is suggesting a conscience is involved somewhere in the equation.........
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Israel is once again tightening its stranglehold on Gaza, prohibiting U.N. relief shipments of food, fuel, and medicine.

The reason given: Hamas fired rockets into southern Israel (no one was injured).

Now, I'm practiced at this, so naturally I look for more. And sure enough, the Hamas attacks were preceded by the slaughter of 10 more Palestinians by Israel. And as usual, this salient fact was completely unreported in the English-language media. Making it look (to British and Americans) as though Hamas had once again started the violence on its own.

Middle East - Gaza flare-up threatens truce

Israel is determined to punish Palestinians for electing a Hamas government instead of another fraudulent, Fatah government. Gaza was not only under a continuous Israeli blockade of variable intensity but on many occasions under deadly military incursions. Hamas offered a truce but Israel keeps breeching it and, of course, Hamas retaliates.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Guide: Gaza under blockade
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Hey Talhoube, what is the prevalent sentiment in the ME about Israel ultimate true intentions?
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