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I am still here, in this nightmare. I hear that when I wake up I will find a much better world, safe and prosperous because our great leadership and the lack of greed that our society is built upon. I can hardly wait to wake up, pinch me some more Jay.... oh, please don't touch my woody in the process
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Imagine a world where every Government statistic is wrong.

Then explain why we're in, or not in a recession with any degree of accuracy.

What will you base it on?

EDIT: As a side note, if the government messes up everything they do, might they also mess up the government stats across the board?
The GDP index is only ONE of the ways that Economists gauge the health of the economy. Viewing ALL of the Economic indicators provide a balanced view of it's health.

Using GDP alone is simply a convenient barrier number. It doesn't take into account the trending that surrounds it.

It doesn't make the Government statistic wrong or right, simply puts its relevance in proper perspective.

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Though probably not up to your standards, our government has been muddling through now for a couple hundred years. As a result, I tend to buy their assessment of the situation far more than that of a bunch of amature flame-throwers on a Mercedes-Benz board. Nothing personal, just my assessment of the situation...
Armature? Amature?

Would "amateur" be what you are looking for?

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I am still here, in this nightmare. I hear that when I wake up I will find a much better world, safe and prosperous because our great leadership and the lack of greed that our society is built upon. I can hardly wait to wake up, pinch me some more Jay.... oh, please don't touch my woody in the process
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Armature? Amature?

Would "amateur" be what you are looking for?
Lord knows I tried--but I am an amateur speller too...

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So the board room makes all the decisions and apparently 99% of their decisions are wrong. To top it off, this reinforces my opinion all along that the bailout must stop and the Big 3 must go. Not to mention they are also the biggest road block to small start ups with alternative fuel vehicles that many inventors have been struggling to put to market.

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Well, many of their decisions were right, at least for years. American buyers wanted trucks and SUVs and the Big3 provided them. Since Americans traded cars ever 36 months quality was not as big of an issue as it is for companies were folks keep their cars longer. So that decision was basically sound [on the surface].

Now, what they did not do was address the growing energy problems that have been known from the early 1970s. They started off well, scaling back the largest of cars but really stalled. THPSE are the big series of decisions that got lost as big profits from Trucks/SUVs brought big profits [at least through mid 2005].

So, their decision making is not 100% bad, more like 60/40 bad.

As for letting them go and letting startups pick up the slack with alternative fuel vehicles. That just won't work as the infrastructure to make that scenario work with any scale would require massive investment from somewhere [China, India, Saudi Arabia, UAE???]. If we are going to be energy independent our best bet is to gamble on the Big3 with a really tight leash to go that route. They can retool quicker, have the engineering staff in house and the skillset to actually move metal. Right now, most of the startups are in the "move proposals and grants" stage.

Love em or hate em, the Big 3, in some incarnation needs to be part of the future of this country's economic resurgence. We need something with mass and momentum that can move large blocks of economic growth quickly and that is one of the best, quickest opportunities.

Please name another sector that can provide as much economic push as this industry to help stabilize and grow an economy. I frankly cannot think of any.

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Lord knows I tried--but I am an amateur speller too...
It was a good effort.

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