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Why do Democrats eat unborn children?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Next up, "Are all skinheaded marines homosexual?"

I believe we need another poll and for the Marine, a pole...........
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The question should be: Is TNTRower a coward?
How do you see yourself? Others?
I don't know how many more times I need to tell you this drewprof, so I will type real slow and use small words.

I see myself as Hellboy with a little bit of Mr. Incredible thrown in.

I see others as comic cariacatures of themselves and I am better than you. So I will never be at the bottom of the barrell as I can always stand on your chest to keep you downtrodden like the good little Marine Nazi Christofacist you want to believe I am.

Who's John Galt.

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Why does TNT hate America so?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Next up, "Are all skinheaded marines homosexual?"
No just "Trysexual."

Who's John Galt.

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This thread calls for a repost of a classic:


Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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TNT's next question:

Why do shit sandwiches taste do darned good?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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I'm getting some traction out of the "McCain renounced his US Citizenship in POW camp and is actually a citizen of Vietnam" meme. It works with the whole "Manchurian Candidate" thing. In a typical carload of Acorn winos, I am getting 59-40 that McCain has had a slanty-eye transplant.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Using the discussion we had earlier as context, I don't see politicians as cowards simply because they have a different agenda than that of the military.

The word "coward" in Military terms has a somewhat different meaning than it does in Political terms nonetheless and the two can't really be compared.

What might have seemed cowardly to Patton who, in 1945 wanted to go on in and take out Russia when we had the opportunity was seen as deliberate foreign policy to Eisenhower who knew that, while it might have merit stepped will beyond the bounds of protocol and mandate. Was it the right decision?

In 1991, Desert Storm, many in the Military wanted to go in and take out Saddam at that time. The Political decision was to do what the UN and US Citizens sent us there to do, remove Saddam from Kuwait. We did that. To have gone further would have changed US policy and changed how the US was considered in the world [much like the situation we are in now]. Was it the right decision?

These were not coward's decisions, they were decisions made based on both the Military and Civilian requirements that were components of the decision making process, not just the Military.

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