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I've redistributed weight, so the list is gone. It's all pitch and yawn from here on out
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I think I'll add that analogy to the wiki answer for "socialism."
I think you will be challenged by many, on many levels.

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Nah, I'm going 3rd party . . . is Mick the Dem or GOP candidate?
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Besides, just because the Electoral College has rendered your vote for POTUS irrelevant, there are still local candidates and issues that deserve your support or scorn.
And wouldn't it be nice is there were a full slate of Libertarian and Independent candidates from which to choose.

THAT is the big shame in this election. Nobody wants to put in the foundation work.

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I think you will be challenged by many, on many levels.
It's closer than you would admit. The problem with your analogy of extended family is that lack of liberty or choice. The WE you capitalized cannot be allowed to vote themselves a share of the rich old aunt's money. Likewise, no candidate should promise a majority of the electorate money taken from a minority for the express purpose of winning an election.
Charity is needed, there is no doubt. There are many options on how to accomplish it. This government we have does a very poor job of managing the money we "send" to it on so many levels that I find it incredible we would consider sending it more. There are many agencies (I see a huge list this time of year when the CFC cranks up) that deliver more aid for each dollar contributed (some have no overhead at all). Why do we continue to do this?
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It's closer than you would admit. The problem with your analogy of extended family is that lack of liberty or choice. The WE you capitalized cannot be allowed to vote themselves a share of the rich old aunt's money. Likewise, no candidate should promise a majority of the electorate money taken from a minority for the express purpose of winning an election.
Charity is needed, there is no doubt. There are many options on how to accomplish it. This government we have does a very poor job of managing the money we "send" to it on so many levels that I find it incredible we would consider sending it more. There are many agencies (I see a huge list this time of year when the CFC cranks up) that deliver more aid for each dollar contributed (some have no overhead at all). Why do we continue to do this?
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You might want to check the overhead on some of those non profits. They keep getting in trouble. But I do agree that it would be best if all charity was voluntary. Unfortunately, the needs are greater than the charity. That poses a problem.

The WE I capitalized was the voting public. The WE voted in Representatives who either through promises or actions began to take care of many of those who could not take care of themselves. That WE have done that for well over a century [it started after the not so Civil War]. That WE knows that for domestic tranquility and for the general welfare of the people, there is a requirement to take care of those who can't take care of themselves. That is not socialism, that is humanism. It is taught in every culture in every civilization in history.

Interestingly the civilizations that thrive the most and grow the most are also those that take the best care of the folks that are least able to take care of themselves. It's one of those things I keep seeing pop up in Comparative Religion and Civilization classes.

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Well, Socialism is not too bad in small amounts.

Problem is, our model of Capitalism is failing us big way, right now, right here.
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And wouldn't it be nice is there were a full slate of Libertarian and Independent candidates from which to choose.

THAT is the big shame in this election. Nobody wants to put in the foundation work.
There's a pretty full slate of Libertarian candidates in AZ.

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And wouldn't it be nice is there were a full slate of Libertarian and Independent candidates from which to choose.

THAT is the big shame in this election. Nobody wants to put in the foundation work.
It would be even nicer if the independent candidates that we have were not completely marginalized. The way it could happen--possibly the only way it could happen--would be proportional representation. That was Lani Guinier's bailiwick, before she herself was marginalized by the repugs as a 'quota queen'.

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