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Actually, if there is a big savings from stopping fraud, what is stopping the Bush Administration from pinching off this leak of resources? Has McCain identified, anywhere, what definition of fraud he uses so someone can check to see if there is that much money paying for fraud today, that, without changing benefits when shut down, will cough up all these billions of dollars?

I think things McCain doesn't place much value in, like a Mother's well being, for example, may be targets. To some that sounds a lot like curtailing benefits, not stamping out fraud. So, lets get some definition instead of just pointing at $800 billion and saying there is a few hundred billion in fraud to be mined out. Sounds like great shit, but without definition begins to look and sound like just plain old bullshit.

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Your reality made you hear that, he said it in a left wing reality kind of way
I don't see what the big deal is about who said what. You know you're not going to get the same benefits as your parents did. We all know it.

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What's your reality? Obama is really Osama?
No, BO is just as full of shit as JM, probably more so, and he is certainly less qualified to be POTUS. That's ACTUAL reality. Now in just a few seconds, the libs will start telling me what I fuckin' idiot I am, how racist I am, et al. ultimately confirming my first statement.
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No, BO is just as full of shit as JM, probably more so, and he is certainly less qualified to be POTUS. That's ACTUAL reality. Now in just a few seconds, the libs will start telling me what I fuckin' idiot I am, how racist I am, et al. ultimately confirming my first statement.
no no relax, so do you think Palin is up for the job then? How about Biden? Yeah maybe Biden will take over after Obama reveals his Muslim faith while in office, you never know
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To document all of Obambi's lies would take several pages of posts on this thread... Would probably overload the server!

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I am interested that the entire "false claim" rests on the word of "McCain adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin" throughout the article.

Did factcheck.org do any independent analysis to see if McCain's numbers were legit and added up? Apparently WSJ did and that was where at least part of the information came from for the ads.

I know that each side has a bank of experts pouring over the others plans looking for gaps and holes. It is just possible that the Obama has found a few that factcheck did not dig into.

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Drew, In any election, I will look at the front runner first , then I look at the backup for the if. Would that be a logical process. It is perfectly OK for your logic to vote OB, if you believe the front runner is better, in your case, but the argument of 'if' will not stand up here. In this election, the result is depended on people vote across party lines, liberals and independents who put more emphasis on their own values above the label of being call as ' enemies ' of the country by either side. If you intends to discredit either side by posts of negative quotes, you are belonging to the extremist of either party. The messenger posted less ' shit , fingers ' or attack the messenger of the other side are more educated.

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If your responds are fingers, shit or any similar stuffs, those are know words by either side, it will get you nowhere in the internet, even you have such a high anger, you can not kill or punch the other party. So, what you can do to me even I am your hater ?????? I feel more comfortable when I can get you angry but I am not, WHO is the real winner.

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If the claims are false, I hope the Obama camp admits to it and apoligizes. Myself, I agree with Germanstar, on its face the Obama claim looks pretty reasonable, especially given McCain's earlier support for Bush's insane attempt to gut SSI, which was the beginning of the end of the GOP in this country. But tell me, where in this is the Obama camp calling him something like a "Muslim", the current code-word for "terrorist"? Or like "socialist" - is there some assertion McCain is a Nazi in there? If you think this compares to the vicious racist smears coming out of the GOP, you've got to wait for me to stop laughing before I can reply.

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