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WHY I don't forward e-mails until I check them out

Another one of the tireless and endless assault of emails that go into my box from well meaning friends. Why do people not, at least, check this shit out or, at least, THINK about what is being said before forwarding this shit.

The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised
> 'Meet The Press' and the author is employed by none other than the
> Washington Post!!
>
> From Sunday's Televised 'Meet the Press' Senator Obama was asked
> about his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem
> Stance Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked
> Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is
> played. The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United
> States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the
> national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in
> uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right
> hand over the heart. At the very least, 'Stand and Face It'
>
> Senator Obama Live on Sunday stated:
>
> 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as
> taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom
> the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a
> war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be
> swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song
> 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might
> salute it.'We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to
> redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my
> intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our
> Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct
> ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state
> or period of mutual concord between our governments. When I become
> President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those
> who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting
> oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an
> unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons.
> Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the
> past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine'. Of course now, I
> have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I
> have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this
> Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward
> to becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm
> the United States of America.'
>
> WHAAAAAAAT the Hell !!!
>
> Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly
> be our next President.
> I, for one, am speechless.
>
> Dale Lindsborg,
>
> Washington Post

Now from Snopes.com:
Claim: E-mail reproduces Barack Obama's statement about the U.S. national anthem.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected via e-mail, April 2008]
]

Obama Explains National Anthem Stance

Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171,During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'

WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless . . .


Variations: Later versions of this item report Senator Obama's purported comment as something taken from a transcript of the 7 September 2008 broadcast of Meet the Press.

Origins: Back in October 2007, one of the hottest e-mail forwards was a picture capturing Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama standing in front of a U.S. flag (at an Iowa political event) with his hands clasped in front of him during the playing of the U.S. national anthem (while other persons on the platform with him stood with their hands placed over their hearts). This photographic brouhaha soon
mutated into a (false) claim that Barack Obama "refused to put his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance" and then into the (even more false) claim that "he refused to recite the Pledge of Allegiance" at all (rumors which the Obama campaign soon provided evidence to negate).

While this controversy was all the rage on the Internet, political columnist John Semmens included a bit at the end of one of his satirical "Semi-News" columns (found on the web site of The Arizona Conservative) offering a mock explanation from the Senator about his non-hand-over-heart stance, poking fun at Obama by having him voice the opinion that "the American flag is a symbol of oppression" and that the U.S. national anthem is too "bellicose" and should be replaced by something gentler like "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing."

This bit of satire evidently came off as too believable to some readers, as it has since been excerpted from Semmens' column and forwarded via e-mail (without attribution) as a genuine statement from Senator Obama. However topical it might be, it's just a bit of political commentary-cum-humor, though, not the Senator's own words.

In September 2008, this same piece began arriving in our inbox headed by the claim that it was derived from the 7 September 2008 airing of Meet the Press and naming the interviewer as "General Bill Ginn, USAF (ret.)" It goes without saying that Senator Obama wasn't among the guests on that day's show (those were Senator Joe Biden and author Tom Friedman).

The following (also fabricated) statement about flag burning was appended to later versions of the e-mail:
We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine.

That being said, I'm sick of this shit! I get just as many about McCain, as well, such as the one about how he betrayed our country by revealing the position of soldiers on aircraft carriers, etc.

Obama has done enough stupid shit and said enough stupid things that no one really needs to sit around making up this shit. These people need to get a life!

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How do I get on some of these email lists? I'm feeling left out of the information superhighway, or at least some of the back alleys.

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^^^^^What he said^^^^^

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Did I tell you about how my kidneys were almost harvested? Thankfully I'd read the email so I spurned the girl's affections.


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