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Ahh...just like a true hater. Kill all the ones who have differing viewpoints.
Actually, I believe he was urging you to commit suicide.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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We discussed this on a long conference call today. One of our class is a Fox producer. He provided some of the items listed below regarding the McCain list.

Do you think it had to do with the missteps that McCain has made.
  1. Picking an obscure running mate who appears to have no experience
  2. Keeping the running mate away from the press and public for the first month to keep vetting to a minimum
  3. Very mixed signals on the economy from "the Economy is Fundamentally sound to suspending his campaign for a day in a span of 7 days and showing no grasp of the severity of the economic crisis
  4. Streams of negative advertising
  5. Angry, belligerent crowds
  6. Comments like "That one"
  7. Missteps during the first and second debate

Obama has not had nearly as many moments where the press has had an opportunity to pounce on him for anything. His message has been clear, his campaign above board. He has managed damage control from McCain negative advertising with surprising patience and control. He has not lost his cool or struck out in anger when the McCain side has obviously tried to make him look inexperienced. The press just has not had much negative stuff to cover.
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Yes nothing negative:

1. His ties to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
2. His ties to a confessed and unrepentant Domestic Terrorist
3. His ties to and his beliefs in a racist theology that he supported for some 2 decades
4. His decidedly marxist ideals on wealth redistribution
5. His comments about "Typical White People"
6. His comments about "Bitter, Gun & Religion clininging, Xenophobes" of small town America
7. His refusal to release his birth certificate when multiple independent experts have sworn affidavits saying that the one he has supplied is forgery

It is just more evident that the media in this country is the fifth column.

When you put em side by side, yours looks piss weak. All these "ties", my my, you right wingers love guilt by association, it is so easy, it doesn't require going thru the work of finding real facts on real issues. That and a few off hand comments Obama made, and then you wrap it all up in true RWNJ fashion with a false internet rumor. You people have become a national laughingstock. I mean, could you just read this web page and then shut the fuck up with your lying right wing rumor bullshit?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

And read this one too, so you can get your next lie ready:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address

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When you put em side by side, yours looks piss weak. All these "ties", my my, you right wingers love guilt by association, it is so easy, it doesn't require going thru the work of finding real facts on real issues. That and a few off hand comments Obama made, and then you wrap it all up in true RWNJ fashion with a false internet rumor. You people have become a national laughingstock. I mean, could you just read this web page and then shut the fuck up with your lying right wing rumor bullshit?

snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate

And read this one too, so you can get your next lie ready:

snopes.com: Is Barack Obama a natural-born citizen of the U.S.?

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FTL if you actually read what you post Nobody has seen the actual birth certificate. The campaign released an image of the certificate. He has not released his original for verification. The biggest argument that keeps coming up is the "Well he is a Senator, why would a major party risk this?" That is some wopping fact finding there. Essentially he is about reproach because the party says he is.

Why won't he show the original? A copy is not the same. Especially in the age of Photo Shop.

Who's John Galt.

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The public owns the airwaves. We live in a democracy. The side that gets the majority represents the people. If those representatives impose the fairness doctrine, so be it.
Be damned the constitution, whatever the majority votes that is fine. Hmm, you really would have been well at home in Nazi Germany.

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FTL if you actually read what you post Nobody has seen the actual birth certificate. The campaign released an image of the certificate. He has not released his original for verification. The biggest argument that keeps coming up is the "Well he is a Senator, why would a major party risk this?" That is some wopping fact finding there. Essentially he is about reproach because the party says he is.

Why won't he show the original? A copy is not the same. Especially in the age of Photo Shop.

You are a fucking sucker and a half.

PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter

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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Be damned the constitution, whatever the majority votes that is fine. Hmm, you really would have been well at home in Nazi Germany.
Man, shooting down your bullshit is like shooting pigeons in a cage. Typical Anti-Constitutionalist Republican method, the other side is "against the constitution, when the fact is, you hate the fucking thing. Whose the real Nazi ?:

"In Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969), the U.S. Supreme Court upheld (by a vote of 8-0) the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in a case of an on-air personal attack, in response to challenges that the Doctrine violated the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution"

A fucking 8-0 decision.

Fairness Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I said, the airwaves belong to the public, not to the American Nazi Party aka the GOP. Whatever the people's representatives want to do with it is how our democracy works. Tough shit for you Nazis.

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A license permits broadcasting, but the licensee has no constitutional right to be the one who holds the license or to monopolize a radio frequency to the exclusion of his fellow citizens. There is nothing in the First Amendment which prevents the Government from requiring a licensee to share his frequency with others.... It is the right of the viewers and listeners, not the right of the broadcasters, which is paramount.[1]
^Justice Byron White

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address

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You are a fucking sucker and a half.

PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter

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Nope read your post on this link as well. Says right in the story that what had examined was a copy.

Sounds to me like you are a sucker. Now comes the rant that the law is stupid and should be overlooked because Obama is such the saviour.

Why is everyone so willing to except the "Copy" and not request to see the original? It would definitely put to rest everyone's questions if they had 3 independent experts examine it. It seem that the Obama Campaign would want to take this poison pill out of the media.

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Man, shooting down your bullshit is like shooting pigeons in a cage:

"In Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969), the U.S. Supreme Court upheld (by a vote of 8-0) the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in a case of an on-air personal attack, in response to challenges that the Doctrine violated the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution"

A fucking 8-0 decision.

Fairness Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I said, the airwaves belong to the public, not to the American Nazi Party aka the GOP. Whatever the people's representatives want to do with it is how our democracy works. Tough shit for you Nazis.
Hmm...1969 and we all know that the Supreme Court is always right (Dredd Scott comes to mind)

Who's John Galt.

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Nope read your post on this link as well. Says right in the story that what had examined was a copy.

Sounds to me like you are a sucker. Now comes the rant that the law is stupid and should be overlooked because Obama is such the saviour.

Why is everyone so willing to except the "Copy" and not request to see the original? It would definitely put to rest everyone's questions if they had 3 independent experts examine it. It seem that the Obama Campaign would want to take this poison pill out of the media.
You are too stupid to argue with. Like the article says:
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And there’s the rub. It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible.

But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over.

"There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic.

And that’s true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust."
You're a fucking idiot who will believe anything, the core voter of the GOP. You will follow blindly into a Sucker's War, follow blindly into a Sucker's Economy, and believe anything based simply on hate and spin. You are not an analytical, intelligent person, you are a piece of fucking mud that right wing slimeball politicians spin into Idiot Clay, which then gets half baked inside your fucking head.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Man, shooting down your bullshit is like shooting pigeons in a cage. Typical Anti-Constitutionalist Republican method, the other side is "against the constitution, when the fact is, you hate the fucking thing. Whose the real Nazi ?:

"In Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969), the U.S. Supreme Court upheld (by a vote of 8-0) the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in a case of an on-air personal attack, in response to challenges that the Doctrine violated the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution"

A fucking 8-0 decision.

Fairness Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I said, the airwaves belong to the public, not to the American Nazi Party aka the GOP. Whatever the people's representatives want to do with it is how our democracy works. Tough shit for you Nazis.



^Justice Byron White
Yes try including the whole context. It was done in the view of the personal attack rule. I am still in favor of the personal attack rule. But maybe others should decide for the themselves.

I love your creative editing FTL. If you were an accountant you could have worked for Enron.

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In Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969), the U.S. Supreme Court upheld (by a vote of 8-0) the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in a case of an on-air personal attack, in response to challenges that the Doctrine violated the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The case began when journalist Fred J. Cook, after the publication of his Goldwater: Extremist of the Right, was the topic of discussion by Billy James Hargis on his daily Christian Crusade radio broadcast on WGCB in Red Lion, Pennsylvania. Mr. Cook sued arguing that the FCC’s fairness doctrine entitled him to free air time to respond to the personal attacks.[4]

Although similar laws had been called unconstitutional when applied to the press, the Court cited a Senate report (S. Rep. No. 562, 86th Cong., 1st Sess., 8-9 [1959]) stating that radio stations could be regulated in this way due to the limited spectrum of the public airwaves. Writing for the Court, Justice Byron White declared:

A license permits broadcasting, but the licensee has no constitutional right to be the one who holds the license or to monopolize a radio frequency to the exclusion of his fellow citizens. There is nothing in the First Amendment which prevents the Government from requiring a licensee to share his frequency with others.... It is the right of the viewers and listeners, not the right of the broadcasters, which is paramount.[1]

The Court warned that if the doctrine ever restrained speech, then its constitutionality should be reconsidered.
Pay attention to the last line there.

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