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Dumb crack-head bitch doesn't even understand the office she's running for...

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During an appearance on US TV yesterday, Gov. Sarah Palin surprised some with her interpretation of what her position in a McCain administration would entail. Brandon Garcia, a third grader, posed the question “What does the Vice President do?”.

Palin replied "They’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom."

According to the Constitution, the VP has limited powers, with no voting rights unless the Senate is "equally divided". The US Senate website explains that in modern times it is more of a ceremonial role.

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Okay, I like to indulge in some Palin bashing on occasion, but that just simply cannot be true. There's no way she's THAT dumb.



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Okay, I like to indulge in some Palin bashing on occasion, but that just simply cannot be true. There's no way she's THAT dumb.



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I trying to figure out the Sarcasm here. The VP is still the President of the Senate. It would be very interesting to see what would happen if the VP ever decided to actually exercise that power.

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I trying to figure out the Sarcasm here. The VP is still the President of the Senate. It would be very interesting to see what would happen if the VP ever decided to actually exercise that power.

If Palin tried it? The Senate would probably walk out...........
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I trying to figure out the Sarcasm here. The VP is still the President of the Senate. It would be very interesting to see what would happen if the VP ever decided to actually exercise that power.
Incredible that you'd risk your life defending something you have no understanding of whatsoever.

U.S. Senate: Art & History Home > People > Officers & Staff > Vice President of the United States (President of the Senate)
Vice-Presidential Duties

The framers also devoted scant attention to the vice president's duties, providing only that he "shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be evenly divided" (Article I, section 3).

In practice, the number of times vice presidents have exercised this right has varied greatly. John Adams holds the record at 29 votes, followed closely by John C. Calhoun with 28. Since the 1870s, however, no vice president has cast as many as 10 tie-breaking votes. While vice presidents have used their votes chiefly on legislative issues, they have also broken ties on the election of Senate officers, as well as on the appointment of committees in 1881 when the parties were evenly represented in the Senate.

The vice president's other constitutionally mandated duty was to receive from the states the tally of electoral ballots cast for president and vice president and to open the certificates "in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives," so that the total votes could be counted (Article II, section 1). Only a few happy vice presidents — John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Van Buren, and George Bush — had the pleasure of announcing their own election as president. Many more were chagrined to announce the choice of some rival for the office.

Several framers ultimately refused to sign the Constitution, in part because they viewed the vice president's legislative role as a violation of the separation of powers doctrine. Elbridge Gerry, who would later serve as vice president, declared that the framers "might as well put the President himself as head of the legislature." Others thought the office unnecessary but agreed with Connecticut delegate Roger Sherman that "if the vice-President were not to be President of the Senate, he would be without employment, and some member [of the Senate, acting as presiding officer] must be deprived of his vote."

Under the original code of Senate rules, the presiding officer exercised great power over the conduct of the body's proceedings. Rule XVI provided that "every question of order shall be decided by the President [of the Senate], without debate; but if there be a doubt in his mind, he may call for a sense of the Senate." Thus, contrary to later practice, the presiding officer was the sole judge of proper procedure and his rulings could not be turned aside by the full Senate without his assent.

The first two vice presidents, Adams and Jefferson, did much to shape the nature of the office, setting precedents that were followed by others. During most of the nineteenth century, the degree of influence and the role played within the Senate depended chiefly on the personality and inclinations of the individual involved. Some had great parliamentary skill and presided well, while others found the task boring, were incapable of maintaining order, or chose to spend most of their time away from Washington, leaving the duty to a president pro tempore. Some made an effort to preside fairly, while others used their position to promote the political agenda of the administration.

During the twentieth century, the role of the vice president has evolved into more of an executive branch position. Now, the vice president is usually seen as an integral part of a president's administration and presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions or when a tie-breaking vote may be needed. Yet, even though the nature of the job has changed, it is still greatly affected by the personality and skills of the individual incumbent.
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Dumb crack-head bitch doesn't even understand the office she's running for...

Here's video about it...........

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I trying to figure out the Sarcasm here. The VP is still the President of the Senate. It would be very interesting to see what would happen if the VP ever decided to actually exercise that power.
I'm guessing the Senate majority leader would tell her to STFU, then continue on with business as usual.

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I trying to figure out the Sarcasm here. The VP is still the President of the Senate. It would be very interesting to see what would happen if the VP ever decided to actually exercise that power.
Someone would take out a copy of the Constitution and smack them over the head with it.

"That Power" is very limited and very specific.

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eh, you know i was going to respond but, what's the point with you..
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Jay........you are an idiot.
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Okay, I like to indulge in some Palin bashing on occasion, but that just simply cannot be true. There's no way she's THAT dumb.



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Incredible that you'd risk your life defending something you have no understanding of whatsoever.

U.S. Senate: Art & History Home > People > Officers & Staff > Vice President of the United States (President of the Senate)
Vice-Presidential Duties

The framers also devoted scant attention to the vice president's duties, providing only that he "shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be evenly divided" (Article I, section 3).

In practice, the number of times vice presidents have exercised this right has varied greatly. John Adams holds the record at 29 votes, followed closely by John C. Calhoun with 28. Since the 1870s, however, no vice president has cast as many as 10 tie-breaking votes. While vice presidents have used their votes chiefly on legislative issues, they have also broken ties on the election of Senate officers, as well as on the appointment of committees in 1881 when the parties were evenly represented in the Senate.

The vice president's other constitutionally mandated duty was to receive from the states the tally of electoral ballots cast for president and vice president and to open the certificates "in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives," so that the total votes could be counted (Article II, section 1). Only a few happy vice presidents — John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Van Buren, and George Bush — had the pleasure of announcing their own election as president. Many more were chagrined to announce the choice of some rival for the office.

Several framers ultimately refused to sign the Constitution, in part because they viewed the vice president's legislative role as a violation of the separation of powers doctrine. Elbridge Gerry, who would later serve as vice president, declared that the framers "might as well put the President himself as head of the legislature." Others thought the office unnecessary but agreed with Connecticut delegate Roger Sherman that "if the vice-President were not to be President of the Senate, he would be without employment, and some member [of the Senate, acting as presiding officer] must be deprived of his vote."

Under the original code of Senate rules, the presiding officer exercised great power over the conduct of the body's proceedings. Rule XVI provided that "every question of order shall be decided by the President [of the Senate], without debate; but if there be a doubt in his mind, he may call for a sense of the Senate." Thus, contrary to later practice, the presiding officer was the sole judge of proper procedure and his rulings could not be turned aside by the full Senate without his assent.

The first two vice presidents, Adams and Jefferson, did much to shape the nature of the office, setting precedents that were followed by others. During most of the nineteenth century, the degree of influence and the role played within the Senate depended chiefly on the personality and inclinations of the individual involved. Some had great parliamentary skill and presided well, while others found the task boring, were incapable of maintaining order, or chose to spend most of their time away from Washington, leaving the duty to a president pro tempore. Some made an effort to preside fairly, while others used their position to promote the political agenda of the administration.

During the twentieth century, the role of the vice president has evolved into more of an executive branch position. Now, the vice president is usually seen as an integral part of a president's administration and presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions or when a tie-breaking vote may be needed. Yet, even though the nature of the job has changed, it is still greatly affected by the personality and skills of the individual incumbent.
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did you guys actually read this? or watch the vid? oberman was oh so close too... just mentioned jokingly but it ain't a joke.. or it will be one on us.. she's actually consistent with the red highlights above.

a vote doesn't necessarily constitute power. read the red above again, slowly. lol

i agree and i think that what she's saying is that is most likely what she's going to try to do. it's obviously happened before. the constitution doesn't seem to limit her "working" with the senate.. and she is a bully..

some of you said senate would buck her exertion of power. how quickly we forget the mid term elections. have we withdrawn from IRQ? has shrubco been impeached for numerous violations? etc.. does pelosi have a backbone?

ARE WE FUCKING WINNING?? OR ARE THE TERRORISTS HAVING A FUCKING LAUGH?



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