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Yes to reduction of government spending. If you move the Debt to the side the only costs to the government becomes INTEREST for the bonds and a set buy back.

As for a "requirement" for #2, that is a hard problem to solve. If the bond to savings system is to work long term as a retirement plan, and replace social security [AND ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR ELDERLY POOR] then there would need to be some guarantee on the part of the citizen that they are covered. Otherwise we would, as a government have the possibility of 50 Million folks come to retirement age without squat and an expectation that something would be done.
Yup. You may not know this, but I loathe big government, high taxes, with higher spending. However, were higher taxes, perhaps even asking folks to "volunteer" to forego their SS checks if they don't need them, a part of transitioning away from that socialism in as "fair" a manner as can be, I could accept it.

I think that you and I and a few others could solve these things. You keep me from borrowing money, I'll keep you from spending it.

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Yup. You may not know this, but I loathe big government, high taxes, with higher spending. However, were higher taxes, perhaps even asking folks to "volunteer" to forego their SS checks if they don't need them, a part of transitioning away from that socialism in as "fair" a manner as can be, I could accept it.

I think that you and I and a few others could solve these things. You keep me from borrowing money, I'll keep you from spending it.
Well, back when I originally posted this I wrote it up as a six page white paper and sent it to Congressman Chandler [I am revising it again after the last two weeks]. It was received very well. I have met with him twice on it so I am hoping to actually get some traction on this. The 3 minute version does not cover everything but the white paper does not include any government programs either which I think everyone is happy with [Chandler is a BlueDog Democrat].

The transition element is, without question going to be the hardest as it will be generational and there will need to be an opt in/ opt out period for some folks who fall in the gap so they can pick a poison. That, to me is one of the untidy parts.

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Has nothing to do with topic...thanks anyway for the useless distraction.
You reeaaallly don't get it, do you ?
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Split it with the Ruskies.
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Split it with the Ruskies.
Not your property, or the Russians, to split.But um, thanks for your humor. Fascinating that you feel the "solution" to the US challenges is to conspire with an enemy once willing to nuke the USA to dust and turn on a long-term NATO ally. ( Of course this act alone would effectively finish NATO) If you were serious,I'd say you're really quite delirious but as it is, we'll just accept your humor for what it is.
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Hey Bear, it's a "Black and White meet" here isn't it?
not sure of the non sequitur. But in your sig, I see silver, which is gray.

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Not your property, or the Russians, to split.But um, thanks for your humor. Fascinating that you feel the "solution" to the US challenges is to conspire with an enemy once willing to nuke the USA to dust and turn on a long-term NATO ally. ( Of course this act alone would effectively finish NATO) If you were serious,I'd say you're really quite delirious but as it is, we'll just accept your humor for what it is.
Who is "we" ?
Learn some lessons from history. The possibilities of regime change in any country is not limited to what you have experienced in your lifetime. The ruskies are a few small steps to another revolution and guess who is gonna come calling for help.
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Who is "we" ?
Learn some lessons from history. The possibilities of regime change in any country is not limited to what you have experienced in your lifetime. The ruskies are a few small steps to another revolution and guess who is gonna come calling for help.
This isn't a Rocky and Bullwinkle test, is it?

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