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That would have nothing to do with a suggestion that he was being opportunistic to make digs at Bushie. Those are two completely different political paths.
I'll not suggest that Powell would have endorsed whomever he perceived as the likely winner, but it does seem clear that he didn't want to back a loser here -- just like Bill Richardson.

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Who cares who Colin Powel endorses

Obama is a socialist, that should be enough for any true American who loves capitalism and free markets.
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I'll not suggest that Powell would have endorsed whomever he perceived as the likely winner, but it does seem clear that he didn't want to back a loser here -- just like Bill Richardson.
Absolutely, however I see many Republicans who are withholding endorsement without endorsing the other side. Chuck Hagel or Ron Paul as examples.

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I would guess that Chuck Hagel and Ron Paul are loathe to endorse either candidate because they don't support either candidate.

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I would guess that Chuck Hagel and Ron Paul are loathe to endorse either candidate because they don't support either candidate.
I'm loathe to vote for either myself. Either way the populace is getting fucked for the usual asleep at the helm.
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Who cares who Colin Powel endorses

Obama is a socialist, that should be enough for any true American who loves capitalism and free markets.
Apparently you don't know the definition of socialism.

At no point has anyone said anything that comes even close to either the political or economic definitions of Socialism.

But it certainly makes for a cool Fear, Uncertainty and Dread headline, now doesn't it?

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I'll not suggest that Powell would have endorsed whomever he perceived as the likely winner, but it does seem clear that he didn't want to back a loser here -- just like Bill Richardson.
My impressions from watching him in the early 90s in DS and from his writings, he does not give a flyer what people think about his opinion. He is going to give it based on conviction, not political expediency.

It is why, from what has been written that he was so pissed at the cooked intel and the position he was put in at the UN. He had X data and was required to make a case. As a General, he was used to "orders" from the CinC. That was somewhat of an untenable position. He had plenty of time, after he resigned to smack back. He did not.

It is why I think this was genuine. No strings. I do hope that he comes into a new administration, however, we can use that expertise.

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And yet he waited until the outcome of the election was a foregone conclusion.... Forget about the 90's. Getting bent over and held out to dry in front of the whole world can change a man, and lend caution where there was none before.

I'm not saying anything that anyone else here is saying. Race was a minor factor if a factor at all, and he was not about to endorse McCain under any circumstance, especially in light of McCain's demonstrated demeanor and lack of integrity during the campaign, and the selection of Palin for VP. I'm just saying that he didn't want to back a loser, else he would have come forward with this heralded endorsement sooner. The only gain from waiting until the eleventh hour was a measure of safety.

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And yet he waited until the outcome of the election was a foregone conclusion.... Forget about the 90's. Getting bent over and held out to dry in front of the whole world can change a man, and lend caution where there was none before.

I'm not saying anything that anyone else here is saying. Race was a minor factor if a factor at all, and he was not about to endorse McCain under any circumstance, especially in light of McCain's demonstrated demeanor and lack of integrity during the campaign, and the selection of Palin for VP. I'm just saying that he didn't want to back a loser, else he would have come forward with this heralded endorsement sooner. The only gain from waiting until the eleventh hour was a measure of safety.
I guess my point is, he had no reason to endorse ANYONE. There just does not seem to be motive.

Now, the fact that he has already been advising Obama on foreign policy and military matters certainly adds an element.

So, we have to ask, did Powell decide to make an endorsement all along and the rollout was HIS planning OR, more likely than not, the rollout of the endorsement was Obama's Campaign's schedule. Remember how they handled Carter.

If that is the case, expect to see the next two Sunday's have "special moment" endorsements. It is down to that time.

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That's certainly possible. Of course, that would change the logistics a bit from that of independent endorsement to collusion. Not a big gainer IMO.

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