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The Monkey fully agrees with you on this point, somebody always takes it in the end............
good point, but what happens when that monkey is on (your; not meaning you personally) back?






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It's like my daughter's food allergy (which by the way, is clearing, thanks to diligence practiced in keeping away offending allergens that she had tested positive to when she was 11 months old).

One theory about the rise of food allergy in children is the proliferation of antibacterial products and the national obsession with fighting the germs. No parents today allow their kids to play in dirt, dig for worms, jump in leaf piles, catch frogs because they're all considered germy and dirty.

Absense of bacteria from the system make antibodies and immunity system rather idle. The system, that has traditionally fought bacteria and other external offending matters have nothing to attack so they go after new targets; often, they are specific proteins found in certain particular food, thus triggering reactions to food in varying degrees of severity. Curiously enough, the rise of food allergy is confined mostly within children of developed nations.

What do food allergies have to do with the divisive nation?

The US of A have always had external threats: the British upon Independence, the Spanish and the Mexicans, Germany, the 'Japs', and then came the Cold War and those scary commies that kept America frightened for quite a long time. Upon the collapse of Soviet Union, there was a big vacuum of fear and hate towards external threat. Saddam conveniently appeared but he was arrested and executed. North Korea - perhaps, but nothing compared to Soviet Union, and Iran, just like North Korea, too far, too small, and too exotic to keep an average Joe plumber scared.

There has always been a divide in this country - race, for one - but never before the divisiveness has become so deep because we have lost all external threats that bring all of us together. Remember that cheesy movie, "Independence Day"? It took aliens to unite the world and that's the next magic bullet.
What would 200 million idle haters do but to turn on their neighbor for putting up a political sign from opposing party on his front yard?

It's America in autoimmunity disorder.

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It's like my daughter's food allergy (which by the way, is clearing, thanks to diligence practiced in keeping away offending allergens that she had tested positive to when she was 11 months old).

One theory about the rise of food allergy in children is the proliferation of antibacterial products and the national obsession with fighting the germs. No parents today allow their kids to play in dirt, dig for worms, jump in leaf piles, catch frogs because they're all considered germy and dirty.

Absense of bacteria from the system make antibodies and immunity system rather idle. The system, that has traditionally fought bacteria and other external offending matters have nothing to attack so they go after new targets; often, they are specific proteins found in certain particular food, thus triggering reactions to food in varying degrees of severity. Curiously enough, the rise of food allergy is confined mostly within children of developed nations.

What do food allergies have to do with the divisive nation?

The US of A have always had external threats: the British upon Independence, the Spanish and the Mexicans, Germany, the 'Japs', and then came the Cold War and those scary commies that kept America frightened for quite a long time. Upon the collapse of Soviet Union, there was a big vacuum of fear and hate towards external threat. Saddam conveniently appeared but he was arrested and executed. North Korea - perhaps, but nothing compared to Soviet Union, and Iran, just like North Korea, too far, too small, and too exotic to keep an average Joe plumber scared.

There has always been a divide in this country - race, for one - but never before the divisiveness has become so deep because we have lost all external threats that bring all of us together. Remember that cheesy movie, "Independence Day"? It took aliens to unite the world and that's the next magic bullet.
What would 200 million idle haters do but to turn on their neighbor for putting up a political sign from opposing party on his front yard?

It's America in autoimmunity disorder.

Well said, well read, and well taken






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Do not be mislead by the media. It looks like we are in divided stage but we are not in civil war. This is the political system we have. It allow us to select someone to represent our ideas, image and purposes. But as usual, no one is identical to ourselves. We know we have to be compromised at the end. Let us allow everyone to split out their love or hate once every 4 years. The system will run its course. We will be a great nation once again. This is the democracy.
For the white haterz out there, why don't you vote for Obama's other white half?
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For the white haterz out there, why don't you vote for Obama's other white half?

He is voting for the Media to win, place and show...........
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Good post Sly.

Most everyone on this board does have the interests of the country in mind when they/we post. Even in the most divisive of posts, while we might COMPLETELY disagree on reason or logic or path, if the objective is to make this country better, the goal is the same. Getting there is the hard part.

This level of divisiveness was very apparent back in 1972-1980. Watergate and VietNam wore everyone out. Completely. Add to it 15% inflation, our first energy crisis and the Iranian hostage crisis and folks were on each other hard, constantly. It got better. While folks did not always agree with Reagan, and sometimes adamantly disagreed with him, he pulled the country back together to heal. That lasted up until two events.

Talk radio and the rise of the NeoCon movement in 1994. We have pretty much been at it since then. Bush became the poster boy for the NeoConservative and target of much of the anger at the policies it spawned.

That cycle looks like it is over, no matter who wins. The country is in so much trouble on so many different fronts that we frankly have no choice but to pull together. Compromise is going to be a new word in a lot of people's vocabulary. It is going to be difficult to get used to but it is going to be necessary. The polarization is just going to have to stop if success is to be achieved. We have done it before, we can do it again.

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Good post Sly.

Most everyone on this board does have the interests of the country in mind when they/we post. Even in the most divisive of posts, while we might COMPLETELY disagree on reason or logic or path, if the objective is to make this country better, the goal is the same. Getting there is the hard part.

This level of divisiveness was very apparent back in 1972-1980. Watergate and VietNam wore everyone out. Completely. Add to it 15% inflation, our first energy crisis and the Iranian hostage crisis and folks were on each other hard, constantly. It got better. While folks did not always agree with Reagan, and sometimes adamantly disagreed with him, he pulled the country back together to heal. That lasted up until two events.

Talk radio and the rise of the NeoCon movement in 1994. We have pretty much been at it since then. Bush became the poster boy for the NeoConservative and target of much of the anger at the policies it spawned.

That cycle looks like it is over, no matter who wins. The country is in so much trouble on so many different fronts that we frankly have no choice but to pull together. Compromise is going to be a new word in a lot of people's vocabulary. It is going to be difficult to get used to but it is going to be necessary. The polarization is just going to have to stop if success is to be achieved. We have done it before, we can do it again.
Talk Radio, Do you mean Rush?
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In my voting parameters, there is no color or gender, but definitely there are values to be considered. When the media try to use these two variables to compare the human rights issues, I think that is an election appeal than really a human right achievement. The grass root movements already started 10 years ago. There are many black mayors and female governors in different states and cities.

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In my voting parameters, there is no color or gender, but definitely there are values to be considered. When the media try to use these two variables to compare the human rights issues, I think that is an election appeal than really a human right achievement. The grass root movements already started 10 years ago. There are many black mayors and female governors in different states and cities.

You are one of the few around here that should not bring up values and as you have brought up before ethics................
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You just screwed yourself if you try to impost or insult me by saying that I do not have ethical standard. I care less about your feeling than substance in writing. If you are going to accuse others of wrong doings, you must put up the evidence here. I want to see how you fuck up your logic.

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