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Trust me, Z knows that there's next to nothing in the current political and economic infrastructure that resembles socialism, or Z's A, for that matter.
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Z's flowchart exits all data at a point near, and quite possibly right at the spot located near Z's A.
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Hey Zig, are you a looser like me?
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Is it patriotic to avoid paying your share of taxes?
Are you sick? It is patriotic to chant bullshit in support of a war that is killing the neighbors' kids, and even your own. But anyone who suggests it might be patriotic to have the people chanting their support for sending America's next generations to far away lands to act as bait to attract the scum of the earth to shoot at them to also pay taxes to cover the expense of their thirst for blood, well, you must be a commie or something. This generation of the GOP is all about keeping their money even if it means killing off their kids in a war, and then bankrupting their grandchildren by running up fucking unlimited deficits.

"Take my kids but don't touch my money!"

Now that is patriotism as defined by the GOP of modern times. Jim
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Which is most important, the success of the individual or the success of the country?
That statement scares me. Fuck the lazy,weak,and the rest of the country. Until our politicians give up all the wealth they have and start living on 50k a year I will not prop up the lower class because they deserve better. If the govt is going to make life better for them by giving them my money then they should make mine better by giving me their money. I could use a few more mansions and maybe a yacht. Socialism does not work. If you have no incentive to work harder then the next guy you won't. It is a lot like union trades, My friend is a union electrician, he used to work for me at a different non-union shop. He is one hell of a worker and I would hire him tomorrow if he needed a job. When he went to the union he was black listed by his fellow workers, for working too fast. He has a set amount of work that he has to do in a set amount of time. He can not run conduit faster then 200 feet per hour. We trained him to run it at 350 feet per hour. That is a comfortable pace, if your hauling ass you can get as high as 550 an hour on straight runs. If he works faster then that he makes the other workers look bad. He makes the same amount as all the other guys even though he can run circles around them. There is no reward for being better then the next guy so why bother trying. He has worked there for a little over five years now and last time I checked the have never finished a project ahead of schedule or on time. They are usually raking in the overtime for 2-3 weeks past the deadline trying to get it done. In the non-union you are rewarded for your skills. I have 3 guys that are making OVER union scale by several dollars a hour not including their benefits. They make me more money then the other guys so they get a bigger piece of the pie. If I paid them the same as the other guys do you think they would bust their ass like they do? They might because they have a outstanding work ethic and are so used to that pace, but for how long. The other guys know that more money comes with more work completed. That is their motivation for working harder.

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Hey Zig, are you a looser like me?
It's quite possible that I'm more of a loser than you, but I don't care to determine whether I'm looser--thank you, very much
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Hey Zig, let's drink a fews beers together. What say you?
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I call SSI, medicare and medicaid success stories.
(crickets chirping)........................ Thanks for proving our point.

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I contracted my home but I don't have a contractor's license. I built my own cabinets but I don't have a license to build cabinets. I wired my own house but I am not a licensed electrician (and yes, it's up to code and passed inspection). Apparently, you believe that licenses are magic pieces of paper that miraculously turns a dumb ass into a legitimate craftsman when there are plenty of knowledgeable, unlicensed people around who are just as competent as these licensed participants.
You "elect" to miss the point. Your "working man's hero" is a fucking liar. A "I didn't have sex with that woman!" liar. He is neither a plumber, nor a likely candidate to buy the plumbing business he works for, and, if the State investigates and fines his employer for violating the licensing statutes, he will likely be unemployed, all thanks to his good friend, John McCain.

He is a dead beat tax payer. Oh, yeah, that must be what you like about him so much. He doesn't pay his taxes. In his case that makes him a dumb fucking liar.

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democrates should be shot. mccain is the best the republic could come up with? the less big goverment the better. i did like how barrack fumbled the ball and cain was there to pick it up. you see an opening, you go for it jhonson!!!!
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