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One voter registered 73 times through ACORN...

While you can applaud their efforts, you have to abhor whatever policies or incentives leads to such fraudulent activities.

So...in the name of a legal democracy, which is preferable: to allow latitude, being assured you're counting votes cast by those who cannot legally vote (or vote more than once)? Or tightening things up to gain some assurance of proper voters, but being assured you are eliminating a few valid votes?



ACORN defends efforts amid fraud allegations

Republican lawmakers call for investigation of voter registration practices

Oct. 14, 2008

WASHINGTON - An activist organization on Tuesday defended its voter registration practices amid new allegations of voter fraud and a call from Republican lawmakers to investigate irregularities.

In Ohio, Democrat Barack Obama told reporters that the group's registration problems should not be used by the GOP as an excuse to keep voters from turning out on Election Day.

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, known as ACORN, has registered 1.3 million young people, minorities and poor and working-class voters, the group says.

Some of those registration cards have become the focus of fraud investigations in Nevada, Connecticut, Missouri and at least five other states. Election officials in Ohio and North Carolina also recently questioned the group's voter forms.

More than 13,000 workers in 21 states recruited less-fortunate voters, who tend to be Democrats.

"The vast, vast majority were dedicated workers," ACORN spokesman Kevin Whelan said at a news conference on Tuesday. "They did something remarkable in bringing all these new voters."

On Monday, election officials in Ohio's most populous county asked a prosecutor to investigate multiple registrations by four people who signed up through ACORN. One voter said he signed 73 voter registration forms over a five-month period.

The North Carolina State Board of Elections is reviewing suspect voter forms from at least two counties.

Meanwhile, House Republicans have also renewed their push for the Justice Department to investigate the group. On Friday, six GOP leaders wrote to Attorney General Michael Mukasey to urge him to make sure ballots by ineligible or fraudulent voters are not counted on Nov. 4.

A law enforcement official said ACORN has been on the radar of federal investigators. But the official would not say whether an investigation has been opened, and spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue so close to the presidential election.

Whelan said ACORN staffers separate applications with missing or false information and flag them for election officials. All applications, including problematic cards, are handed in because some state laws require it, he said.

Whelan said he did not know how many registration cards had problems but believed it was a small percentage. He was unsure how many workers were fired for purposely turning in duplicates or applications with fake information, he said.

"If they look false, we identify them as such," Whelan said of the forms.

ACORN has been drawn into a back-and-forth between the presidential campaigns.

Republican John McCain's campaign on Tuesday said Obama should rein in ACORN's efforts in order to fight voter fraud. The campaign accuses the Democratic presidential candidate of having close ties to the group.

Obama and two other lawyers in 1995 represented ACORN in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois to make voter registration easier. During this year's primary, Obama hired a firm with ties to the group for a massive get-out-the-vote effort.

Obama told reporters on Tuesday that ACORN was not advising his campaign on voter registration.

Last week, McCain called for a federal investigation of the organization during a campaign rally. His campaign manager, Rick Davis, has said Obama's connection to the activist group should be investigated.

"This is another one of those distractions that get stirred up during the campaign," Obama said.

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Does anyone think about what they're reading / hearing before developing an opinion and clinging to it for dear life?
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the key word which is not correct: "registered".
you see, you only apply for registration through Acorn.
the board of Elections (a governmental agency) actually registers the person ONCE! at best.
after verifying it.
a very important word, don't ya think?
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the key word which is not correct: "registered".
you see, you only apply for registration through Acorn.
the board of Elections (a governmental agency) actually registers the person ONCE! at best.
after verifying it.
a very important word, don't ya think?
What! Are you the local Acorn apologist?

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^ Balances out your brainless squawking. At least he's studied the issue and come to a rational conclusion.
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Here is why this is just noise.

Who cares if I turn in 2 million voter registration cards? There is only going to be one of me to show up and vote. When I do, then my name will be scratched off or whatever they do to prevent duplicates.

It's not like they are going to let me stay in the booth to click the lever 2 million times. It's not a slot machine.
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Here is why this is just noise.

Who cares if I turn in 2 million voter registration cards? There is only going to be one of me to show up and vote. When I do, then my name will be scratched off or whatever they do to prevent duplicates.

It's not like they are going to let me stay in the booth to click the lever 2 million times. It's not a slot machine.
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Here is why this is just noise.

Who cares if I turn in 2 million voter registration cards? There is only going to be one of me to show up and vote. When I do, then my name will be scratched off or whatever they do to prevent duplicates.

It's not like they are going to let me stay in the booth to click the lever 2 million times. It's not a slot machine.


It is still a gamble...........
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Here is why this is just noise.

Who cares if I turn in 2 million voter registration cards? There is only going to be one of me to show up and vote. When I do, then my name will be scratched off or whatever they do to prevent duplicates.

It's not like they are going to let me stay in the booth to click the lever 2 million times. It's not a slot machine.
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