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yes, however the left refuses to acknowledge fair & balance.
We love fair and balanced. It is what allows diversity of opinion and thought.

It also makes it boatloads easier to debate those who only read/watch/listen to fox/rush.

Thing with fair and balanced is, we see all the options and then get to make up our minds from that. See what is important and what is noise.

Ayers/Liddy is noise. Nothing but NOISE.

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We love fair and balanced. It is what allows diversity of opinion and thought.

It also makes it boatloads easier to debate those who only read/watch/listen to fox/rush.

Thing with fair and balanced is, we see all the options and then get to make up our minds from that. See what is important and what is noise.

Ayers/Liddy is noise. Nothing but NOISE.
There's the winner. The only good news about the G. Gordon Liddy revelation is that now everyone can shut up about Ayers...one less thing to distract from the issues at hand.
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You didn't live through Watergate and the concerns that it was destroying this democracy.

To suggest that Liddy and Haldeman and Ehrlichmann and Dean and the rest of that crew were simply crooks is beyond naive.

But good to see you willing to minimize the actions of a man who threatened to kill a journalist who was getting to close to the watergate story and who was one of the tactical leaders of the group. Fall guy? Not in a million years.

First read, do your research, THINK and then post. You will find a much better outcome.
And once again how is that marginalization working for ya?

So a person who bugs an office and threatens to kill someone if he exposes him is a terrorist who is of the same ilk who places bombs at the pentagon and who to this day says he is sorry he did not do more?

Wow, another leap of faith my friends! McBear is our latest convert to Obamunism! This is the way and the light. The One, Obama.

Who's John Galt.

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And once again how is that marginalization working for ya?

So a person who bugs an office and threatens to kill someone if he exposes him is a terrorist who is of the same ilk who places bombs at the pentagon and who to this day says he is sorry he did not do more?

Wow, another leap of faith my friends! McBear is our latest convert to Obamunism! This is the way and the light. The One, Obama.
By Department of Homeland Security definitions YES. By my definitions NO. But the point is, neither is Bill Ayers still a terrorist. What he did in the late sixties and what he does now are two different things. Critical thinking would allow you to understand that if you wanted to.

Ayers is not a great guy. But you amplify Obama's relationship with him in order to attempt to create Fear Uncertainty and Dread. It is a specious argument at best. It is piss poor politics at its worst.

You can continue the silliness of the Ayers argument, many do. But folks will continue to call into question you thinking skills and your ability to look at the real issues instead of the noise. It is, of course YOUR choice.

The real issues in this election are restoring America's image in the World, moving to new Energy platforms, rebuilding a shattered Economy and rebuilding the infrastructure of this country.

If you wish to continue the petty stuff, enjoy.

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By Department of Homeland Security definitions YES. By my definitions NO. But the point is, neither is Bill Ayers still a terrorist. What he did in the late sixties and what he does now are two different things. Critical thinking would allow you to understand that if you wanted to.

Ayers is not a great guy. But you amplify Obama's relationship with him in order to attempt to create Fear Uncertainty and Dread. It is a specious argument at best. It is piss poor politics at its worst.

You can continue the silliness of the Ayers argument, many do. But folks will continue to call into question you thinking skills and your ability to look at the real issues instead of the noise. It is, of course YOUR choice.

The real issues in this election are restoring America's image in the World, moving to new Energy platforms, rebuilding a shattered Economy and rebuilding the infrastructure of this country.

If you wish to continue the petty stuff, enjoy.
Good thing the vast majority of people do not think like you McBear. The reason the Ayers story has legs is because the vast majority of people still think that a person can be judged by the company they keep. Why is Obama so actively distancing himself from Ayers and Wright and Pfleger? According to you these people should have no bearing on what people decide is in Obama's heart, character and the basis of his principles. Oh wait, that's right strike the part about principles. He doesn't have any that he has espoused.

Who's John Galt.

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Wow, the vast majority, ya don't say...clearly you're running out of ammunition. Enjoy your fail
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Wow, the vast majority, ya don't say...clearly you're running out of ammunition. Enjoy your fail
Hey Zeitgeist, try coming out of the moral and intellectual relativism that you love so much and try talking about some simple absolute truths. Oh that's right you are unable to. So sorry for your fail. I notice that you like to snipe with no facts or arguments.

Just more Pooh! Pooh! Pooh! Pooh! Pooh!

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Uh...wha?
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Uh...wha?
It is more appropriate if you say "Duuuuude...wha?"

(cue bong sucking noises)

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