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John McCain has made earmarks the official bogeyman of his campaign. he has portrayed Obama as a dirty rotten earmarker, and he says if he is elected, he will veto every earmark that comes across his desk. Well, he just voted for a bail out package that contained ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS IN EARMARKS. He now goes out on the stump and tells everyone how this bill is the good thang. Did he or did he not just blow his chance to be President by missing his chance to put his money where his mouth was, and by becoming the greatest public hypocrite in the history of politics, or is he relapsed into that opium habit he picked up in Southeast Asia? So help me out, what the fuck is up with this guy?

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I'm going for the opium explanation, I think it's a reasonable thing to do once you hit your mid-seventies, acid is just too intense for a dude his age.

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Yes, bouncing from one side of an issue to the next, just to get elected. Somewhere along the line McCain became McShame.

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FTL, help me choose the poison. The unbridled mockery Obama will surely make of the government or the senility and wishy washy wobbly stand McCain makes. Why is it that you insist Obama poison is better than the other? No matter who's elected, nothing will really change for the good of the people.

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John McCain blatantly lied and then sold out his own core principles. Let me repeat the bill had ONE HUNDRED BILLION IN EARMARKS. I have yet to see Obama do anything like selling himself out like McCain just did, as he says one thing and does another in a way that shows he would sell out his core principles just to get elected. John McCain has used the word "earmarks" every other sentence in his campaign. He's the Earmark Maverick! Give us an example of anything remotely like what John McCain just did, or STFU.

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John McCain blatantly lied and then sold out his own core principles. Let me repeat the bill had ONE HUNDRED BILLION IN EARMARKS. I have yet to see Obama do anything like selling himself out like McCain just did, as he says one thing and does another in a way that shows he would sell out his core principles just to get elected. John McCain has used the word "earmarks" every other sentence in his campaign. He's the Earmark Maverick! Give us an example of anything remotely like what John McCain just did, or STFU.
You seem to miss the point, Vern! BOTH voted for this piece of shit legislation! You say one compromised principles and the other did not? Give me a break. And the stock market, which was supposed to respond positively to this brainless bill, has, instead fallen like a f^ckin' rock since this morning. BOTH parties had enormous opposition to this bill and they voted for it, anyway. Now, just maybe, you can see past your partisanship, just this once, and admit that there needs to be a MAJOR cleaning out of the House and Senate this November.

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You may not know it, but those 120 billion dollars had already been approved separately in the Senate and were waiting for final passage.

As for helping you out, which door do you prefer?

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You may not know it, but those 120 billion dollars had already been approved separately in the Senate and were waiting for final passage.

As for helping you out, which door do you prefer?
Then why would they be put into this bill if they are already approved in separate legislation? Just to be sure the money get's spent?

Any citing on that?

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