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Why would we want him????

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Shark bait.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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That is a thinking person's analysis. But with her good looks, she is not about appealing to people who think. She offers only slick platitudes.


The debate would have been a much tougher test if the format had allowed Ifill to say, "Nice speech Governor, now please answer the question."


Palin stuck to her talking points very well: "I'm not gonna answer questions the way you or Senator Biden want me to". She stuck to her guns on those talking points that's for sure

The people who decide based on debates probably didn't realize a few of her sentences didn't make sense, and I'm virtually certain didn't recognize her changing subjects to what she had in front of her. The sentence thing is bad, but the other is just bad form, which very few people care about.
Overall I think she did what David Brooks said she did. She stopped the hemorrhaging.
Ifill sucked as a moderator, and the last minute controversy was staged to keep her off balance and afraid to take Palin to task. She should have said, right after that remark, "Are you telling us you are not going to participate in this debate in the format that was agreed upon by your campaign?" And then, when she refused to answer a question, at all, the moderator should have suggested the agreement had been broken, and the rules of the debate require that she either dismiss herself or comply. And then, if the "fuck you and your debate rules" attitude persisted, she should have shut the debate down and just interviewed Biden.

As it was, the example set means it is acceptable to just ignore the format, rules and questions and go on the stump with talking points that have nothing to do with the questions. Jim
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Ifill sucked as a moderator, and the last minute controversy was staged to keep her off balance and afraid to take Palin to task. She should have said, right after that remark, "Are you telling us you are not going to participate in this debate in the format that was agreed upon by your campaign?" And then, when she refused to answer a question, at all, the moderator should have suggested the agreement had been broken, and the rules of the debate require that she either dismiss herself or comply. And then, if the "fuck you and your debate rules" attitude persisted, she should have shut the debate down and just interviewed Biden.

As it was, the example set means it is acceptable to just ignore the format, rules and questions and go on the stump with talking points that have nothing to do with the questions. Jim

Wonder if McCain will try and pull the same shit and if someone with a set will call him on it..........
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I just want to hear Obama ask McCain how McCain could base an entire campaign based on opposition to earmarks, and then turn around and vote for the Bailout Bill which had 0NE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS IN EARMARKS, earmarks that were loaded in for one purpose: bribe votes out of congressmen, one of the outrageous abuses that McCain claims he wants to reform. I would really like to hear McCain's answer to that.

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