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I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative. (Closest to libertarian if I must fit into a box).

I feel the R's have strayed completely from their roots of conservatism and will not support them again until neocon influence is removed. I believe a vote for Obama is a more meaningful vote than one cast for Bob Barr or writing in Ron Paul.

I believe the Republicans require an impetus to return to more conservative principles, and pulling the trigger for McCain is not going to help that happen. There are a multitude of reasons I detest McCain "100 yrs in Iraq" for one.

I do not support socialism or the concept of wealth redistribution at all (unlike republicans who love socialism when it comes to wall street), but I also loathe what I have seen as the destruction of many of my constitutional rights under the Bush administration in the name of the endless War on Terror not to mention Illegal wiretaps, torture of prisoners, invading sovereign countries, star chamber courts, secret meetings with oil interests to set oil policy, suspension of habeas corpus, archaic and immoral drug laws, children without health care, the death penalty meted out to dark skinned people inordinately, and a president who says Nukular.. I feel the government presents more of a threat to my way of life than any terrorist. 4 years from now, I hope to be presented with better choices.

I wish one could vote for sensible economic policies and a social policy not written by neocons and evangelicals. But given that you are faced with one or the other I'll take a more socialist approach over a fear and fascism.

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I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative. (Closest to libertarian if I must fit into a box).

I feel the R's have strayed completely from their roots of conservatism

and will not support them again until neocon influence is removed. I believe a vote for Obama is a more meaningful vote than one cast for Bob Barr or writing in Ron Paul. That is definitely a valid point

I believe the Republicans require an impetus to return to more conservative principles,

and pulling the trigger for McCain is not going to help that happen. There are a multitude of reasons I detest McCain "100 yrs in Iraq" for one. Again a valid point

I do not support socialism or the concept of wealth redistribution at all (unlike republicans who love socialism when it comes to wall street), but I also loathe what I have seen as the destruction of many of my constitutional rights under the Bush administration in the name of the endless War on Terror not to mention Illegal wiretaps, torture of prisoners, invading sovereign countries, star chamber courts, secret meetings with oil interests to set oil policy, suspension of habeas corpus, archaic and immoral drug laws, children without health care, the death penalty meted out to dark skinned people inordinately, and a president who says Nukular.. I feel the government presents more of a threat to my way of life than any terrorist.

4 years from now, I hope to be presented with better choices.

I wish one could vote for sensible economic policies and a social policy not written by neocons and evangelicals. But given that you are faced with one or the other I'll take a more socialist approach over a fear and fascism.
Ok. You have some valid points but I disagree where you fall on the outcomes.

The part about illegal wiretaps and suspension of habeas corpus, etc. I disagree with. Why should we extend the rights of citizens to those who are not citizens? What right of yours has been infringed upon by the administration?

As for the torture aspect, if we were torturing people like you see in the movies then yes I agree. However my perception is colored by being over there and knowing that what we do is coercive yes, but not torture. I would gladly put a round through the head of anyone who would kill my brothers in arms or inflict pain upon anyone who would not willingly divulge information that can save the lives of my men.

Secret meeting with Oil companies? Come it wasn't just Bush who did that. You can't get honest feed back from people in political situations unless you guarantee anonymity. You know that.

Children without health care? Show me one child who when taken to the hospital is denied the proper treatment. If they are I will show you a hospital that has been sued by a lawyer the likes of John Edwards.

As for the Dark skinned comment there is a whole thread in there.

Who's John Galt.

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