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Two U.S. Defense Department employees and the Czech ambassador were among the dead.

The five-story hotel, a favorite spot for foreigners and the Pakistani elite — and a previous target of militants — still smoldered from a fire that raged for hours after the previous day's explosion, which also wounded more than 250 people. "
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"Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said the bomber attacked the hotel only after tight security prevented him from reaching Parliament or the prime minister's office, where the president and many dignitaries were gathered for dinner."
It could be internal after all
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Sad, and tragic, and not actionable other than offering our condolences and condemning the attack. Which I think we've done.
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More Bodies Pulled From Hotel Rubble in Pakistan

(NYTimes.com) ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The death toll in the truck blast outside the Marriott Hotel here on Saturday rose to 53, with at least 266 people wounded, officials said on Sunday, adding that the numbers weren’t expected to grow much more. Two Americans were among the dead.

The blast was described by the government on Sunday as an attack on democracy. “Our enemies don’t want to see democracy flourishing in the country,” said Rehman Malik, a senior Interior Ministry official, at a press conference here, adding that the attack was meant to sabotage Pakistan’s integrity and economy.

The hotel, a six-story structure, was favored by the new government of President Asif Ali Zardari as a place to do business. One of the reasons it was popular with Pakistani officials was its relatively easy access. Security at the hotel building, which was set about only 100 yards from the street, had been considered to be somewhat problematic by Western security officials at the Marriott. But the security was beefed up in the last year, and, increasingly, American officials visiting Pakistan stayed there.

Mr. Malik gave details of one of the biggest terrorist attacks in the country’s history. He said that more than 1,300 pounds of explosives were used, adding that the blast created a crater about 60 feet wide and 25 feet deep.

He also released a videotape. It showed that a six-wheel dump truck was stopped by security guards at a barrier in front of the main entrance of the hotel. A few gunshots were heard, and the front part of the truck caught fire. It burned for about three minutes as three to four security guards were seen running away and one guard tried to put out the fire with an extinguisher.

Mr. Malik said investigators were still trying to conclude whether the attacker was killed by gunfire from the security guards, explosives detonating inside the truck cabin or whether he got out of the truck and then detonated an improvised device.

Rescue workers pulled five dead bodies out of the wreckage on Sunday, as excavators and cranes worked to clear the debris and wreckage of the building. Officials had believed, at first, that people were trapped inside the burning hotel and had feared a much higher death toll.

There were no claims of responsibility, but Pakistani officials suspected participation by militants operating in the rugged territory in northern Pakistan known as the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, or FATA.

“All roads lead to FATA,” Mr. Malik said, but he stressed that it was premature to name any group or individual.

Mr. Malik said that the investigation into the attack would be conducted by only Pakistani authorities. “We don’t need any help; we reject it,” he said when asked about the offer from the United States to send special F.B.I. agents for assistance.

Pakistani officials said that at least 106 people had been admitted in different hospitals in Islamabad, including 11 foreigners. These included four Americans, four Saudis and one each from Britain, Afghanistan and Lebanon. One Vietnamese and the Czech ambassador to Pakistan were among the dead.

On Sunday afternoon, distraught relatives milled about anxiously outside the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences, or PIMS.

Dr. Samia Ali, 33, said she had been visiting Islamabad to attend her sister’s wedding and came to the hospital to volunteer. Dr. Ali said that most of the patients she had seen had severe burns, head injuries and cuts.

Luqman Khan, 25, was lying on a bed in a surgical ward of PIMS on Sunday. He had had surgery Saturday night. Mr. Khan said that he had worked at a government building across the road from the Marriott. “I saw it with my eyes,” he said referring to the blast.

“A truck filled with bricks was aflame near the entrance. People were shouting, ‘Get away! Run away!’ After a few minutes, there was a big explosion. I fell unconscious.”

At the traffic square leading to the hotel, police had cordoned off the blast site and dozens of people stood in a somber mood.

Abdul Khaliq, 41, a professor in a private university, said that he had been inside the Marquee Hall Saturday having iftar, the evening meal when Muslims break their fast during the holy month of Ramadan, when the blast shook the hotel. “The false ceiling fell after the blast. I hid under the table as power went out. It was restored after a few minutes and we came out from the backside. I went toward where my car was parked, but it was badly damaged. So, I left it there and went home in a cab.”

When asked who he thought was behind the attack, Mr. Khaliq said that he had other worries in mind. “I am more concerned about retrieving my driving license and other documents from my car.”

Shahid Kamal, 42, a freelance editor, said: “I came here to see the devastation. We are sick” of the wave of terrorism that has engulfed the country, especially in the north.

“This is a reaction of what is going on in FATA,” he said, as his little niece stood by his side. “We have been implementing a reckless and careless policy for a number of years. What’s happening in FATA is that Pakistanis are killing Pakistanis.”

Others offered different explanations and apportioned blame elsewhere.

Muhammad Qadeer, 36, a security guard in an office nearby, said that he thought Indians could be involved, as the blast could have been a reaction to the July bombing outside of the Indian Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, and recent blasts in the Indian capital.

“It can be the work of America also,” said Mr. Qadeer, a bearded man wearing a blue uniform. “Maybe our new president didn’t agree to its dictations,” he said when asked why, referring to President Zardari, who was elected two weeks ago.

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Indonesia, the land of Jemaah Islamiyah and cunts.
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My brothers been to indonesia...nice place...

But coming back to the point:

Well, its very sad to see such an attack where innocent people die and get injured, expecially during the month of Ramadan. Any sane muslim would not go and commit such an atrocious act.........

However there are foreign elemets who want to cause instability to the country..if not this argument.... then there are extremists in the region who believe that Pakistan should be an extremist state and that the other normal/liberal/moderate muslims arent worthy to live and bullcrap like that......

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[QUOTE=foreverBenz;3074280]My brothers been to indonesia...nice place...

^ thats why it is listed in the ten crappest counties in the world , so what does your brothers seeing eye dog think of the place?

International political organisations count about 193 countries. Which ones set the best examples to the rest of the world? Which ones would we do best to copy, to emulate and to admire for their foresight, hard work and long-term conscience? Which countries would have humanity survive gleaming into a clean, happy, bright future? Who are tardy on humanitarian issues, science or development? Compiling relevant statistics on a wide range of issues, and constructing rankings, A shortlist of countries that beat all the others.

The Best Countries

Human Development Index Norway, Iceland
Global Peace Index Norway, New Zealand
Gender Equality Sweden, Norway
Life expectancy Japan, Hong Kong
Quality of Life Ireland, Switzerland
Most Competitive Economy Switzerland, Finland
Economic Freedom Hong Kong, Singapore
Gay Rights Sweden, Norway
Obesity Japan, Korea
Adults at High Literacy Level Sweden, Norway
Environment Finland
Open Access to Research Sweden, Netherlands
Asylum Seeker Acceptance Rates Denmark, Canada
Aid to Developing Countries Norway, Luxembourg
IT: Networked Readiness Index Denmark, Sweden

“The Dalai Lama said that he hoped the index would encourage countries to strive for peace. "Compiling and maintaining an index of which countries are the most peaceful and publishing the results will undoubtedly make the factors and qualities that contribute to that status better known and will encourage people to foster them in their own countries," he said.
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“The chart below shows the amount of aid given to developing countries. It is shown as percent of the Gross National Income, so it includes both aid given by corporations and by individuals. The Report notes how the countries of the G7 - the richest industrial countries - dominate the global aid flow. It also notes how the most generous five countries, all above the UNs target of 0.7% GNI, are all small countries - Norway, Luxembourg, Denmark, Sweden and the Netherlands who have all "consistently met or surpassed the UN target". Japan has only recently fallen to such a low position (third from the bottom), nearly as stingy as the USA.
The United Nations Report analyses how to make aid-giving worthwhile and usable and does not just concentrate on quantity of aid. There are factors which reduce the usability of aid, including corruption and unpredictability of aid quantities. Yet, "perhaps the most egregious undermining of efficient aid is the practice of tying financial transfers to the purchase of services and goods from the donating countries." This kind of "tied" aid is selfish and counterproductive.
The most generous countries are also the ones that do not tend to tie aid to their own products and services. The stingiest countries also, almost spitefully and nastily, force countries to buy their own services and products with the aid they give; which reduces free trade and commerce and harms the countries economy, as well as being simply selfish and conceited. Thankfully, many countries do not tie their aid. Countries that tie less than 10% of aid include Ireland, Norway and the UK, then Belgium, Finland, Switzerland and Sweden. The USA is the worst, and ties nearly 90% of its aid to developing countries. Italy is the second worst with 70%. The two worst countries for this obnoxious practice in aid-giving are also the two countries out of the most developed countries, who give least generously!
So there are the facts, you are soon to join the vast gulag's where citizens are forced to worship their 'Great Leaders,' that let them die like flies with endless civil wars and psychotic regimes brutal ways that have taken life and limb, literally, from thousands of children. Ethnic and religious enmities have so riden the countries that they hardly qualifies as a nations at all. Plagued by every ill of our times: greed, ethnic tension, civil war, AIDS, poverty, where criminal gangs hold more sway than the state. Misrule continues to make potential paradises into a hell on earth, or you could change your pathetic ways, oh that’s right, your right! and there is no need to change LOL carry on and good luck, just be thankful you don't live in the worst ten .


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