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Ah..... the existence proof , the dinosaurs probably thunked the same.

I would be ashamed to use the existence proof if I were a physicist.

Tell me then , what are the odds as calculated by a real physicist in an established physics publication , if there is one ?
You're not a physicist so STFU, what what the highest math course you ever took anyway?
Just like with Talhoube when you tried to tell HER what her religion is now you're blowing out off your arse more bullshit about this subject. Please pick your battles, you know like judging people and shit, you seem to be good at that. Until you show us some credential of a Mufty or a scientist I would suggest that you clearly state what you say from that moment as opinion rather than knowledge
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Two months to repair

Now can you begin to understand the engineering issues?

Officials: Damage to collider forces 2-month halt - Yahoo! News

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airline makers claiming their planes are safe to fly.
Well, watch it there young one.
The planes are safer then anything you ever built or dreamed of building.
I will put my mom into one anytime.

And I know you are afraid to fall off at the edge of the flat earth.
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We have been flying around the world for years and accidents still happen. But the CERN project is the biggest experiment ever undertaken in engineering terms. So when someone tells me it is 100 pc safe I will not believe them.
Birth have been hapening for milions of years in nature and is still not 100% safe.
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Suffice to say, physicists have no proven ideas of what dark matter and energy is.
The cosmological constant is nothing but a fudge factor.
Don't believe me , ask Einstein.

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Modern field theory associates this term with the energy density of the vacuum. For this energy density to be comparable to other forms of matter in the universe, it would require new physics theories. So the addition of a cosmological constant term has profound implications for particle physics and our understanding of the fundamental forces of nature.
WMAP- Content of the Universe

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Oh yeah, the universe IS flat.
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Read the LSAG report and here is the final paragraph...

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We have considered all the proposed speculative scenarios for new particles and states of matter that currently raise safety issues. Since our methodology is based on empirical reasoning based on experimental observations, it would be applicable to other exotic phenomena that might raise concerns in the future.

em·pir·i·cal : relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory <an empirical basis for the theory>

Empirical reasoning is what engineers employ, not physicists.
Using empirical formulas with no theory of their limits is what doomed the shuttle.
The paper above contains NO estimates of uncertainty and probablities of events.

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The empirical formula was known to be uncertain, for it did not go directly through the very data points by which it was determined. Similar uncertainties surrounded the other constants in the formula, etc., etc. When using a mathematical model careful attention must be given to uncertainties in the model.

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Oh yeah, the universe IS flat.
As I said you have no idea about what you're talking about. Define flat
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I think he's confusing the universe with the top of his head.

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I think he's confusing the universe with the top of his head.
Considering none of us has seen the whole universe yet, then the top of his head has no bearing. This planet was thought of as flat until someone sailed into the distance (horizon) and found new worlds (countries)

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