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BBC POLL: World Wants Obama

BBC POLL: WORLD WANTS OBAMA

World wants Obama as president: poll

Posted 3 hours 49 minutes ago

US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama may be struggling to nudge ahead of his Republican rival in polls at home, but people across the world want him in the White House, a BBC poll said.

All 22 countries covered in the poll would prefer to see Senator Obama elected US president ahead of Republican John McCain.

In 17 of the 22 nations, people expect relations between the US and the rest of the world to improve if Senator Obama wins.

More than 22,000 people were questioned by pollster GlobeScan in countries ranging from Australia to India and across Africa, Europe and South America.

The margin in favour of Senator Obama ranged from 9 per cent in India to 82 per cent in Kenya, while an average of 49 per cent across the 22 countries preferred Senator Obama compared with 12 per cent preferring Senator McCain. Some four in 10 did not take a view.

"Large numbers of people around the world clearly like what Barack Obama represents," GlobeScan chairman Doug Miller said.

"Given how negative America's international image is at present, it is quite striking that only one in five think a McCain presidency would improve on the Bush administration's relations with the world."

In the United States, three polls taken since the Republican party convention ended on Thursday (local time) show Senator McCain with a lead of 1 to 4 percentage points - within the margin of error - and two others show the two neck-and-neck.

The countries most optimistic that an Obama presidency would improve relations were America's NATO allies, including Australia (62 per cent).

A similar BBC/Globescan poll conducted ahead of the 2004 U.S presidential election found that, of 35 countries polled, 30 would have preferred to see Democratic nominee John Kerry, rather than the incumbent George Bush, who was elected.

A total of 23,531 people in Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, the UAE, Britain and the United States were interviewed face-to-face or by telephone in July and August 2008 for the poll.

World wants Obama as president: poll - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't give a shit what people in other countries think when it comes to making a decision as to what's best for America.

The only thing more stupid than a fucking poll, is a fucking poll that samples people who have no skin in the game.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't give a shit what people in other countries think when it comes to making a decision as to what's best for America.

The only thing more stupid than a fucking poll, is a fucking poll that samples people who have no skin in the game.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't give a shit what people in other countries think when it comes to making a decision as to what's best for America.

The only thing more stupid than a fucking poll, is a fucking poll that samples people who have no skin in the game.
Since we are still the 600 pound gorilla, they DO have skin in the game.

And where it matters is that we have to get along as a world community, not simply an isolationist country. That requires trust. And that has been broken over the past eight years.

So what the rest of the world thinks about this is actually pretty important.

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Since we are still the 600 pound gorilla, they DO have skin in the game.

And where it matters is that we have to get along as a world community, not simply an isolationist country. That requires trust. And that has been broken over the past eight years.

So what the rest of the world thinks about this is actually pretty important.
It might be a minor point of consideration for an individual voter. However, as long as this remains an American election for an American president, it is the people who vote that have the say in this situation. The world's opinion, and that is all it is - an opinion, has no relevance as their best interests may not be in our best interests. It will be the American people who will decide whether it is McCain or Obama who gets to the White House (for better or for worse).

If they feel that we aren't "playing nice", then that is an issue for their president to discuss with ours.

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It might be a minor point of consideration for an individual voter. However, as long as this remains an American election for an American president, it is the people who vote that have the say in this situation. The world's opinion, and that is all it is - an opinion, has no relevance as their best interests may not be in our best interests. It will be the American people who will decide whether it is McCain or Obama who gets to the White House (for better or for worse).

If they feel that we aren't "playing nice", then that is an issue for their president to discuss with ours.
Where the question comes into play in the voter booth is with Foreign Policy. Does the voter feel the Foreign Policy should remain the same or change.

Put in McCain/Obama terms: Should the Foreign Policies of the United States continue along the same lines they have for the past eight Bush years, alienating much of the world or should they change and the United States become more of a World citizen again? [of course that question might have just a touch of spin to it - It could have been much worse ]

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Since we are still the 600 pound gorilla, they DO have skin in the game.

And where it matters is that we have to get along as a world community, not simply an isolationist country. That requires trust. And that has been broken over the past eight years.

So what the rest of the world thinks about this is actually pretty important.
The reason I disagree is because they're not voting. They're not residents of the country. If they want their feelings to be taken into consideration, they should lean on THEIR government to use THEIR ambassadors and other diplomatic channels. To imply that we should approach the voting booth with the thought "What Would Europeans Do?" on our mind is jiggery-pokery. To hell with those gongoozlers, I say. They have my complete floccinaucinihilipilification.

Of course, it's not their fault - it's those stupid dunderheaded penny-ante nitwits who conduct the polls to begin with that should be strung up by their never-you-mind's.
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The reason I disagree is because they're not voting. They're not residents of the country. If they want their feelings to be taken into consideration, they should lean on THEIR government to use THEIR ambassadors and other diplomatic channels. To imply that we should approach the voting booth with the thought "What Would Europeans Do?" on our mind is jiggery-pokery. To hell with those gongoozlers, I say. They have my complete floccinaucinihilipilification.

Of course, it's not their fault - it's those stupid dunderheaded penny-ante nitwits who conduct the polls to begin with that should be strung up by their never-you-mind's.
I don't think we approach the booth with "WWED?" but I do think we approach the booth with "What is the best positioning of our country in the World view". This is no longer the 19th Century. With instant everything, global trade, global securities and financial interactions, economic pyramids that are intertwined between currencies, geopolitics that are interdependent, global agreements and treaties that require cooperation, it behooves us to fully understand the thoughts and concerns of the folks that we conduct business and politics with when it comes time to vote.

To do otherwise is very shortsighted and leaves us where we are right now.

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