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Well, I will stand up for a person who makes the call for country and its people over political interest EVERY TIME. If he loses, he loses based on a selfless decision. If McCain wins, he knows that he could not have done it without a political ploy.

But I think this worry is all for nothing. Once the voters and press start focusing on issues and issues and issues and further away from the conventions, the election will be what was always assumed, very close.
McCain will be more than happy to win on those terms. Barack was between a rock and a hard place. Running an administration with the Clintons would be disastrous. Losing will be disastrous (for the nation). Of course, it's possible that winning would be disastrous too, but we may never know.

And if you think the voters and the MSM are going to focus on "issues" now, well we need to know what your definition of "issues" is, Pollyanna That this election will be close at all would seem to argue in the other direction.
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Right, and hinging to a precarious extent on the youth vote...
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McCain will be more than happy to win on those terms. Barack was between a rock and a hard place. Running an administration with the Clintons would be disastrous. Losing will be disastrous (for the nation). Of course, it's possible that winning would be disastrous too, but we may never know.

And if you think the voters and the MSM are going to focus on "issues" now, well we need to know what your definition of "issues" is, Pollyanna That this election will be close at all would seem to argue in the other direction.
As GS said, much will hinge on the youth vote. But I consider the issue to be, as Carvelle put it in 1992 for Bush1, "It's the Economy, Stupid". If that becomes the focus, with Iraq and Energy's FUTURE second and third then there is a good chance ISSUES can be the player, not this personality or negative advertising that has been playing out.

And you are dead correct, even if Obama wins, he loses. The winner has to clean up a toxic dump of problems left behind by fratboy Bushie. No matter what the winner does, it will be fodder for 2012.

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With a little tit show from Palin and Cindy I think they can secure the youth vote
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There was only 1 Democratic candidate in the entire field that could have blown the chances for a Democrat win: Barrack Hussein Obama. I said it in the beginning and I say it now. If that douchebag never ran and brought his Oprah's and P Diddy's with him, Hillary Clinton would be crushing McCain all over the fucking place. All you Obama voters can take pride in the fact that you are not "racist", good for you, but you are dumb shits nonetheless. You handed this election to McCain and fell right into the Republicans hands when they convinced you it was Hillary they wanted to run against and not Obama. Way to go guys!.

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There was only 1 Democratic candidate in the entire field that could have blown the chances for a Democrat win: Barrack Hussein Obama. I said it in the beginning and I say it now. If that douchebag never ran and brought his Oprah's and P Diddy's with him, Hillary Clinton would be crushing McCain all over the fucking place. All you Obama voters can take pride in the fact that you are not "racist", good for you, but you are dumb shits nonetheless. You handed this election to McCain and fell right into the Republicans hands when they convinced you it was Hillary they wanted to run against and not Obama. Way to go guys!.

Look dude, in case you are completely ignorant, ALL candidates are full of fucking stinking, festering shit. Half are Satanists bent on destruction and using God as a cloak for their evil misdeeds. These are severe self-servers that would suck the cock of a goat to promote themselves. It's just that I think Obama would only put the tip in his mouth for a while and maybe jack it off to keep it on the hush hush.

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18 Million seem to disagree. But good to see you have mellowed over the past month or so.

So that would be a NO for Obama then?

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I think we're being charmed. I will vote the Dem ticket as always but I won't feel as good as when Slick Willie was running. There has been some discourse in Chicago and many of his people have turned on him. He rose in the ranks so fast and essentially turned on his initial supporters.

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Look dude, in case you are completely ignorant, ALL candidates are full of fucking stinking, festering shit. Half are Satanists bent on destruction and using God as a cloak for their evil misdeeds. These are severe self-servers that would suck the cock of a goat to promote themselves. It's just that I think Obama would only put the tip in his mouth for a while and maybe jack it off to keep it on the hush hush.
I agree with that but we wanted a Democrat in office correct?. As Democrats we needed to see past all that shit and vote for the one that will get us back into power. YOU didn't do that, I did. The Republicans will remain in office and its all because of YOU. We deserve what we get now, might as well take the ass rape with a smile.

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