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View Poll Results: who made the better speech
J. McCain 4 25.00%
B. Obama 12 75.00%
=draw= 0 0%
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I found McCain a rehash of his typical cliches, which seemed surreal given that the theme of his speech "Can't we all just get along?" clashed with his convention, which was a red meat hatchet attack on Democrats, not to mention his hiring of a shrill Right Wing Nut Job as his running mate. I had to relieve my boredom somehow. A lot of my neighbors are Republicans, so I took my 90 lb dog for a walk so he could shit on their lawns while they pursued the Republican pasttime, which is being enthralled by blatant hypocrisy pouring from their TV or AM radio. I gave him a "good puppy" treat everytime he dropped a big dooky on a house where we could see Honky America glued to McCain thru the living room window.

McCain used to be a decent man. There really is no one in politics I am more disappointed with. Somehow starting in 2004, he decided to ape Bush that employing self-serving hypocrisy, shalllow-minded thinking and RWNJ propaganda speak was his path to the presidency. God I hope we has a nation have not sunk so low that we will prove this mindset correct a third time.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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What a stupid poll.
WTF is =draw= supposed to mean ?
It means your fly is unzipped.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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I am very disappointed in McCain. All I heard was he is a returning POW from the Hanoi Hilton, and that he was a POW during a good portion of the Vietnam War, that while he was a POW he did some honorable shit, and that since then he has reminded us endlessly about his time in Vietnam. Not really much else. Jim
Since all that time as a POW in Hanoi was part of his Character Building and is touted as the part that makes him such a strong leader, should we be looking down at Gitmo for the next leader of Al Qaeda and should we simply consider Gitmo a Leadership Training Center?

That is the message sent out last night.

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Plenty of folks around here feel that McCain's speech was brilliant -- much, much better than Obama's in regard to speaking to them.

Much depends on one's starting point and one's ability to separate oneself from one's bias.

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Plenty of folks around here feel that McCain's speech was brilliant -- much, much better than Obama's in regard to speaking to them.

Much depends on one's starting point and one's ability to separate oneself from one's bias.
Now if the media would separate themselves.

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The idea that the swing voter is majorly anything but a drooling paranoid 'kicking' dog, is nothing but a pipe dream.

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