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A stronger dollar = weaker gold
A stronger dollar = falling oil prices

What's the problem?? It's moving in the right direction, is it not?
I refer you to posts #1 and #2 in this thread. They're at the beginning.

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One more Wall Street type calls for government bailouts. When they're making money hand-over-fist (however far they've stretched the rules) they cry out against any and all government intervention. Stop interfering with our precious profits! When they lose money, they pivot instantly and stick their snouts into the public trough. Either we throw more taxpayer money at them or their whole wonderful system is in peril!

"The U.S. government needs to start using more of its money to support markets to stem a burgeoning "financial tsunami,'' according to Bill Gross, manager of the world's biggest bond fund.

"...Unchecked, it can turn a campfire into a forest fire, a mild asset bear market into a destructive financial tsunami,'' Gross said. "If we are to prevent a continuing asset and debt liquidation of near historic proportions, we will require policies that open up the balance sheet of the U.S. Treasury.''

The government needs to replace private investors who either don't have the money to buy new assets or have been burned by losses, Gross said.
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Edit: Bears on a rampage

Deflation seems as though it's becoming a clear and present danger.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...F3EA02B439A%7D

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Is anyone prepared for deflation? All the Fed is good at is ratcheting inflation up or down with its funds rates. Right now the rate is effectively below zero (taking inflation into account). Central bankers have no ammo with which to combat a deflationary spiral afaik. It's becoming genuinely worrying.

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That's all well and good, but what does this have to do with Sarah Palin, budding 44 year young super star?

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That's all well and good, but what does this have to do with Sarah Palin, budding 44 year young super star?

what does your comment have anything to do with metals, homes and dollars?



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what does your comment have anything to do with metals, homes and dollars?
I'll say it again.

Needs more Palin.

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Gentlemen, Gentlemen. I agree that straight teeth are mighty attractive, but it's also true that a strong dollar would bring some benefits. In theory anyway. Now, who's for a little deflation?

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I'll say it again.

Needs more Palin.
god help us all. she's just another Dick, dude.

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Gentlemen, Gentlemen. I agree that straight teeth are mighty attractive, but it's also true that a strong dollar would bring some benefits. In theory anyway. Now, who's for a little deflation?
nah, i'll concentrate on the teeth ..



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And yes Jay, I know the dollar has recovered slightly in the past few weeks, but it's still down 40% in just the last six years. And when I say prices are up, I mean things regular people buy, like groceries and building supplies etc.

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Bear? Are you there? Lehman's trading for one-third of book value in after-hours today. Someone's likely to snap up the whole company at some point, no? Or it may even be taken public. Do you find this irresistible or just unbearable??

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