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^ Ouch. A la Gore.
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It seems McCain is still fairly popular here, the tide against him is apparently due to his choice of running mate. Palin is not playing well here at all.

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Updated Zogby map has flipped VA, and has Obama leading every purple state.

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CNN's map is even more grim, it is showing a bunch of red states "pink". I think the Palin thing is finally sinking in with the general electorate.

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RCP now has Georgia as a toss-up
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It seems McCain is still fairly popular here, the tide against him is apparently due to his choice of running mate. Palin is not playing well here at all.
CNN had a poll that showed McCain behind by two points in AZ.

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I've always thought Georgia would be the DNC's best chance for busting open the Deep South. They have an enormous minority population and lots of Yankees. Give it another two years.

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Well, we just gave them another billion dollars, the least they can do is vote Republican

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CNN had a poll that showed McCain behind by two points in AZ.
This kind of stuff should worry you, IMO. My gut tells me that McCain will win AZ, and likely by 5+ points. If that's true, and this poll is off by 7 points..... Well, do the math and carry that error across the country -- this might be a more interesting race than you anticipate. Of course, if the numbers are right, McCain will understand the night Dukakis had some 20 years ago...

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